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Loka's General Rogue Guide

By Loka- - MEMBER - August 02, 2019, 03:15:35
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Are Bombs/Powder Wall direct damage or indirect damage? 

Bombs are direct damage as of 1.62+. Powder wall is indirect damage. 

Just a small thing to note, "indirect damage" does not necessarily link to the ability to bypass armor points. 

If you detonate the bomb outside of your turn, using the Boombot's own detonation skill or making an ally destroy a bomb under Dynamite, Bomb damage does count as indirect damage (it does not ignore armor points though) and so it can be affected by Ruin subimations on the rogue or Determination sublimations on the target, just to give an example.

Hope you can check this, it's just an assumption i did while reading about sublimation effects ^^
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I've yet to have the opportunity to test this but it's been something that I've been asked about before. My assumption is that Ruin doesn't affect bomb damage if the bombs are blown up by boombot or by dynamite's effect, because it's, I think, defined as indirect damage done outside of your turn. Unfortunately as you noted, indirect damage doesn't really have a strict definition, so it's something I'd have to test.

Unfortunately, getting my hands on two identical items and slapping a ruin sublim on one of them isn't the easiest thing for me to do but I'll definitely add this information whenever I finally get it.

EDIT: Hey so, I talked to a friend of mine about this because I have an awful memory, and they remembered more than I did lol. Ruin was one of the first things I tested when the enchantment update came out on beta. Ruin does NOT affect bombs, even when they are detonated by boombot or dynamite. It does affect powder wall, though.

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I have a doubt about build, you say to put "Strength tree" 20 Melee Mastery, even if you detonate the bombs from far away, the melee mastery work ?

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Yes. Unless you have the Scope passive on, Bombs and Powder Wall always use Melee Mastery regardless of where the Rogue is. You can find this answer under the FAQ section.

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Does Excess rune really work on Detonation/Badabang? I had a fear it would just not work since Detonation/Badabang is not a spell with a damage formula...

 

Loka-|2020-02-20 03:25:16
it does actually work! Detonation/Badabang counts as a spell and will consume excess. All damage caused by bombs is seen as caused by the detonation spell, so the excess bonus will affect all of the damage from detonation.

I hope that answers your question.

That sounds insanely powerful fear
Thanks for the answer!
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it does actually work! Detonation/Badabang counts as a spell and will consume excess. All damage caused by bombs is seen as caused by the detonation spell, so the excess bonus will affect all of the damage from detonation.

I hope that answers your question.

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