Help my Pandora

Or just not use herrrrrrr....

treevamp1|2016-10-08 16:48:15

Just finished the level 160 sidekick quest last night and chose Pandora. This is how I've geared her so far:

What gear do you suggest to improve this? She's a healer with one damage spell (air). Should I give her a weapon that'll let her damage with another element?
Thanks!

kannibal set, have lots of heals, but you need to lvl her first  

this is my drop knight gear right now, at 185 ill update rings. bp, and relic (one of the rings will be kannibal ring and the other one the one you can see on the pic)

 

If I'm not wrong, she can't use any other element, :wind: Air-only sidekick.

As for equipment, I haven't done a list for my own one yet, but maybe the one for Lumino might do the trick (one element, single-target and ranged; maybe items strictly for healing would be more of your choice, this one is for a balance of generic attack and healing. Limited to 10APs with this stuff):

ITEM:
Item name (Level required) //TYPE
Stats: CH = Critical hit, X damage (to Y elements), CHd = Critical Hit damage, ST = Single-target

AMULET:
Flaxhid's Talisman (160) //RELIC
+1 range, +8%CH, 140(3), 30CHd, 20ST

BELT:
Golden Belt (160) //EPIC
+1 range, +6%CH, 60(3), 40ranged

BOOTS:
Scaly Boots (180)
40 dodge, 80(3), 40ranged

ARMOR:
Tropical Shirt (176)
1MP, 70dodge, 60(3), 60ranged

CLOAK:
Capellooni (183)
1AP, 60dodge, 100(2), 60ST

EPAULETTES:
Tropical Epaulettes (176)
50dodge, 100(3), 50ranged

HELM:
Looni Lid (183)
+1range, 55dodge, +8%block, 110(2), 50ST

RINGS:
Gauntloonies (183)
30dodge, +2%block, 40(2), 20ST

Tree Ring (172)
35dodge, 30(3), 20ranged

WEAPON 2h:
Millennium Sword (166)
1AP, 40dodge, 6%CH, 120(2), ST50

Keep in mind that this was my "affordable items" list, not optimal, not perfect. There might be better budget alternatives, just adjust it to your goals. Check the encyclopedia, sort by equipment slot, and make a selection of your good stuff.

Personally I would say that you should drop Pandora or at least not invest too much into her. She doesn't have enough spells and only 2 of them are really noteworthy. Her heals are okay but no AoE, no revive and no other supporting ability.

If you want a healing sidekick then go for either Lumino or Drop Knight.

Lumino has better base stats than Pandora since he does get Healing Mastery by leveling up and he also gets it from his passive and WP spell. He can push in line, revive allies, heal in an AoE and Night Light offers additional good heals with high range and low cost. Only down side is that it doesn't have a heal without line of sight.

Drop Knight is another decent healer. He's more support oriented than Lumino since he can buff/debuff different things depending on his 2nd highest mastery. He's also tankier than the other two and also gets healing mastery by leveling up.

There's also Krosmoglob, it has some really nice mechanics/spells but I haven't tried out that much.

Hey y'all, thanks for the feedback.

I've been lucky enough to find Lumino, Krosmoglob and Protoflex on the kama market. However, I didn't feel too motivated about leveling them past 125 or so, knowing I'd be getting a level 160 sidekick once I hit 160 myself.

Well, at least Pandora bumped up my troupe rank.

Still, I'm curious about the comparison with Lumino. I have a lower level alt who'll be able to test both sidekicks at that low level.

treevamp1|2016-10-09 15:56:46

Hey y'all, thanks for the feedback.

I've been lucky enough to find Lumino, Krosmoglob and Protoflex on the kama market. However, I didn't feel too motivated about leveling them past 125 or so, knowing I'd be getting a level 160 sidekick once I hit 160 myself.

Well, at least Pandora bumped up my troupe rank.

Still, I'm curious about the comparison with Lumino. I have a lower level alt who'll be able to test both sidekicks at that low level.

sidekicks are so slooooooow to lvl up
in your case i would stick with pandora just because she's lvl 160

lumino is a good sidekick if you dont want to think a lot to play with him. he does his work well, but the cons are he only have 1 offensive spell
krosmo needs more skill to use, but its fun and efective
idk what to say about protoflex

oh and you also have drop knight that can do everything: heal, dmg, buff your ap and dmg

malefica-pt|2016-10-09 16:53:08

treevamp1|2016-10-09 15:56:46

Hey y'all, thanks for the feedback.

I've been lucky enough to find Lumino, Krosmoglob and Protoflex on the kama market. However, I didn't feel too motivated about leveling them past 125 or so, knowing I'd be getting a level 160 sidekick once I hit 160 myself.

Well, at least Pandora bumped up my troupe rank.

Still, I'm curious about the comparison with Lumino. I have a lower level alt who'll be able to test both sidekicks at that low level.

sidekicks are so slooooooow to lvl up

idk what to say about protoflex

Sidekicks gain exp from environmental quests, at the same +30% rate as they do from combat, so if you're the proper level, Moon EQ's can level them up pretty quick, just takes some dedication and a strong main. The plus side is that on fighting quests, they don't have to heal, so free meat shield every fight.

As for protoflex, honestly one of the best purchases I've ever made on the market. At level 124, he gives a free 4 ap (2 ap each to the two closest allies) just for starting his turn with fire damage. For 1 MP, +135 mastery, -40 Resist from one target (castable twice a turn) if Fire is highest dmg. And, Heavy Blow, -30(something) resist to target per hit, for 3 ap (max -Res is 200). For a full combo he can remove around 140 Resist from one target, while buffing ally damage, and giving ap. And, he's naturally really tanky, so mostly you just need to buff his lock, give ap and mp from gear, and he'll be really helpful.

EarthyMadness|2016-10-09 17:13:57

Sidekicks gain exp from environmental quests, at the same +30% rate as they do from combat, so if you're the proper level, Moon EQ's can level them up pretty quick, just takes some dedication and a strong main. The plus side is that on fighting quests, they don't have to heal, so free meat shield every fight.

i know these EQ tricks, but even with that its a pain in the ass to lvl up my little partners. im lvl 190 and my Chad (rip pandora ) its only lvl 165 and my astrub knight is 125

xmetx-zero-x|2016-10-08 22:01:50

Or just not use herrrrrrr....

I'd have to admit I'd select another one. Just on the basis of healing sidekicks not contributing that much to assaults, given my particular approaches. Of course, my own first experience was a little unsettling. I'd zap a monster then they the sidekick du jour would step valiantly in and undo the damage I'd inflicted.

Took me several jaw dropped seconds to figure what the devil was happening. Hey, I'm an Iop at heart. I prefer slugging it out and taking my chances.

Saphi openly boycotts Ankama's disgusting scamming of its players and yet still gives them his money. 404 Self-Respect Not Found. Hehexd

If you plan on sticking with sidekicks for end game, I highly recommend you use krosmoglob instead of Pandora. I am able to bring my kros (Click here) to koko, kanni, and croc dungeons and it does fine. It can even take the place of eni for when the group has no healer. I haven't had a chance to bring it to vore yet, but I think it can do okay there too. Sidekicks will never do as well as other toons, but they are handy if you don't use heroes when you need a 6th and no one is on.

I still have to rune gear and get st'ki mask and ovapow ring on him.

malefica-pt|2016-10-09 17:26:17

EarthyMadness|2016-10-09 17:13:57

Sidekicks gain exp from environmental quests, at the same +30% rate as they do from combat, so if you're the proper level, Moon EQ's can level them up pretty quick, just takes some dedication and a strong main. The plus side is that on fighting quests, they don't have to heal, so free meat shield every fight.

i know these EQ tricks, but even with that its a pain in the ass to lvl up my little partners. im lvl 190 and my Chad (rip pandora ) its only lvl 165 and my astrub knight is 125

This. The problem with Environmental quests is that their EXP tends to be lower as your main character levels up, thus making the EXP gains for the sidekicks lower. It took me like 48 quests there to level the Astrub Knight from 174 to 175, being my character at 186. And you can't enjoy the Wisdom bonuses (on yourself) for increasing the EXP from those quests.

Until 150 or so they are not that hard to level, but past that level it's quite slow unless you can find a party willing to allow you to take them with you into the dungeon for leveling. Same case for Tormentor/Flaxhid runs, being a non-environmental quest reward they can't get any EXP, unlike players.

Well there's a way to level them fast but it requires too many things to be in most cases possible.

You'll need: Booster pack, 2 high level characters (preferably level 200), a third character around 170 at least and friends to carry you.

ValvatorezSr|2016-10-09 17:56:28

Saphi openly boycotts Ankama's disgusting scamming of its players and yet still gives them his money. 404 Self-Respect Not Found. Hehexd

i bought them with kamas, so your point is invalid.

My sidekicks:



and i recommend you using proto with drop knight, best combo


this is on "fire" mode, this way, and with drop knight, my fogger gets to 2100% stasis damage and 16 ap. On earth mode proto goes to almost 90% res, 100% block and around 4000 shield every turn. I choose drop knight because that SK have a delayed heal that helps a lot to make me last longer when i use fogginator (lose 25% hp at start of my turn, but delayed heal heals around 3-4k)

But yeah, krosmo is nice because it can change from attack mode to healer mode and does pretty good on both  

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