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Issues with season 3 (spoilers!)

By EvilOneWhichSobs#6111 - MEMBER - October 22, 2017, 22:50:50
Ok, I really liked the series, but I'm more fan of the world it seems... That aside, it's kind of ridiculous to be honest. The ending plothole. Are gods of krosmoz utterly retarded? I know they are not all that powerful, but damn hell, they see a guy constructing a giant bomb to blow them the **** out of their "houses" and they sit and watch for it to happen? They could easily ruin his plan. Also 6 eggs + cube being able to murder all the gods... It's an entropy power curve which basically ruins all the shows and its consistency. When you create a world and when you want to say something new, you do not change the fundaments of the world, you use the created world to tell your story. That's how it works. If not, then you will have a story written by a 12 year old, who thinks  "SUPERMAN BEING STRONG IS SO COOL". You have to stay consistent and believable. Season 1 mildly broke those rules. Season 2 did it on a higher margin, followed by the shorts. Then came season 3 which is utterly ridiculous. I mean i'm not here to hate, I understand people enjoy it nevertheless and my opinion hardly means anything, it's just I'm kinda sad the way it's going, because it was one of my favourite series... Sigh... OH well.
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P.S. His change of mind and the final way echo "defeats" him was actually beautiful... 
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I didn't watch it yet, but really, the 6 dofus were always more powerfull than all the gods combined, after all they never had the power to defeat ogrest who posessed them.
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Maybe gods foresee the downfall of Oporo, or the energy bomb is but a farce to them so they decided to continue on the party.
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If that was the case, it would have been wonderful. Sadly it said nothing there.
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It's a such a shame-- the world building gets smaller and smaller with each time progressing media piece from Ankama (be it from new games or animation series) and we still have many things to cover that may never get a chance to be completed.

While I am excited of the future prospects of Wakfu the animated (and the era of Wakfu in a whole), I am still here waiting for the explanation of my missing month guardians x(
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I believe Oropo made that dimension to hide from the gods. Also, as said, a being empowered by the 6 Primordial Dofus overpowered the 12 in the past, even though they where probably weakened before hand as Xelor says. The Eliatrope ones could be even stronger considering their source. 
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So, a guy created by the usage of the 6 things, powerful enough to beat all the gods together, is ignored by the gods. Plus Yugo in the OVAs, had those dofuses but still wasn't able to overpower Ogrest, he almost lost. But i think we are looking too much into it, I think writers do not pay attention to these things... I guess we should just accept a bit shitty writing it and move on.
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The Gods are too Busy playing Krosmaga
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If you think about it, Xelor probably saved the gods:
Xelor weakens gods
Gods loose against Ogrest
Ogrest floods the earth
Oropo builds bomb
The heroes from the flooded world defeat oropo
Gods are safe without having to do anything (except Iop I guess)
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I just think you should be made aware, I have watched all of Wakfu in french and what is being called the third season is actually missing episodes or actually the fourth season. A lot of the story is missing. They talk about the fight but I actually watched the fight with Adamin and Yugo over using the Dofus to save Dali. I was very annoyed that the fight with the brotherhood members and the fight where Yugo used the cube was all missing. They animated it, I am troubled by the choice to use these episodes with out those. A lot of everything is missing because of it.

Lacking the explanations of the other episodes makes no sense... as I dislike the excuse of Yugo having manufactured his own race. It's that kind of inception nonsense which creates massive plotholes. It slaps the face off of the dragon bond... Yugo is his own creator? Yugo was born of the clones of himself and then became bonded to Ad? It now makes no sense at all. Having watched it all in french I can promise you it's all the same shtick. Plot holes all over the place, lore breaking and to top it off the show is made for young kids... why is a child shaped character making out with an adult? I know the french think we all are prudes but surely they are not so insane to think children would enjoy that aspect of the show. The relationship with Amalia was one of the off bits of season three even in the early episodes that American Netflix seems to be omitting... which I think was a mistake. There was plenty of crap they could have cut from the show that would have improved it rather then the vital information of Yugo's struggle over his friends and his family... Things made sense enough up until they started messing with the reality they made.

The dofus merging with the Elio cube creates an explosion because why? It would be lovely to know but once more... those episodes are missing. I guess it was like a few episodes that were a bracer between seasons but still.. they are important to the story. If you need to know, they don't even explain why the Dofus would make the cube go boom in those. The biggest annoyance is that because you didn't have those episodes... you don't know about Dali being his own mentors father and a god, they just assume you do... Dali in those missing episodes sacrificed his godhood to help save the world... cause he's Dali! That is also when he lost his arm. Yeah you all just saw a battle torn Dali and two and a half kids out of the blue. I understand the confusion for American viewers. My advise is to watch the missing episodes and just ignore all of the glaring plotholes. Season 4 is going to be even more mental as the story no longer makes any sense to begin with, it's only going to get worse sad to say.  There is a comic book for it as well which does show a bit of information but when you have a bunch of nonsense as your story it cant be un nonsensed.

Don't get me wrong, I love the show, I'm just critical of something I enjoy.
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Ok dang that was a wall of text, but I'll try to explain.

1. There were "Wakfu OVA" episodes between season 2 and 3, explaining Yugo's batle against Ogrest

2. Yugo created the Eliotropes. Yougo isn't an eliotrope, he is an eliatrope who were created by The Goddess Eliatrope, the embodiment of wakfu in the multiverse. Each eliatrope is born from a dragon egg along with his dragon. Eliotropes are just weak copies scatered across time and space. No lore actually being broken here.

3. The dofus + eliacube (not eliocube) creates an explosiobn because an Eliacube acts like a battery for wakfu, but the dofus are an infinite source of wakfu, making it overload and release all its energy as an explosion. Doesn't have anything to do with the OVAs.
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cody5|2018-04-13 10:19:18
Ok dang that was a wall of text, but I'll try to explain.

1. There were "Wakfu OVA" episodes between season 2 and 3, explaining Yugo's batle against Ogrest

2. Yugo created the Eliotropes. Yougo isn't an eliotrope, he is an eliatrope who were created by The Goddess Eliatrope, the embodiment of wakfu in the multiverse. Each eliatrope is born from a dragon egg along with his dragon. Eliotropes are just weak copies scatered across time and space. No lore actually being broken here.

3. The dofus + eliacube (not eliocube) creates an explosiobn because an Eliacube acts like a battery for wakfu, but the dofus are an infinite source of wakfu, making it overload and release all its energy as an explosion. Doesn't have anything to do with the OVAs.


Neat. thanks for clearifying the Elio and Elia cubes.

This was my comment on another forum I need to correct somethings:
I THINK I FIGURED IT OUT! http://krosmoz.wikia.com/wiki/Eliatrope_(race)
http://krosmoz.wikia.com/wiki/Eliotrope
SPOILERS AHEAD! I researched for 20 minutes, and my conclusion is, is that Oropo is an Eliotrope, not an Eliatrope. http://krosmoz.wikia.com/wiki/Dofus I looked at this, it might not be the Eliatrope Dofus'. The world of twelve didn't get destroyed either otherwise, Amalia would be dead.

Another thing, a 7-YEAR-OLD FLASH ANIME SHOULD NOT BE THIS COMPLICATED. Once again there are spoilers. The dimension Oropo created was destroyed by some big boom (I wonder who did that? Maybe it was Oropo with the big bomb), not the place the world of 12 is in I believe. Also, I'm not for sure correct me if I am wrong, wasn't there 2 Eliacubes, the one created by Qilby with Mechasm heart, then the one created by, I can't remember their names sorry? Also, I know this, the timeless dimension Enrub contains the Eliatropes. Not the Eliacube. If any information is incorrect, please correct me. Also, I noticed they kinda set it up to have more episodes. Elely discovered the word "honor" she has a debt to pay, right? They also got to be booted from Inglorium. Eggo's(Yugo) immortality makes a dramatic relationship, the new baby needs to be seen growing up, and other plotholes need to be fixed. Unless I am overlooking something. Eggos 4 life. Also if someone can, if I made any grammatical errors correct me on that too.
 


 

 
cody5|2018-04-17 11:35:03
Well if "7-year old flash anime" is too complicated for you, I wouldn't recommend reading Homestuck then tongue

I just said that oropo isn't an eliatrope, see point 2., that's why he has Yugo's memories, because he's a copy.
But yes those ARE the eliotroped ofuws that got blown up, but the world wasn't destroyed because it happened in another dimesnion (Oropo's dimension) which destroyed it.
There is only one Eliacube, created by quilby stealing a mechasm heart, no idea how Oropo got it though.

And what plotholes need to be fixed?

All my problems were solved, so none now, except Oropo somehow getting cube o' doom. Wasn't it with the Eliatrope children in the timeless dimension?
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Well if "7-year old flash anime" is too complicated for you, I wouldn't recommend reading Homestuck then tongue

I just said that oropo isn't an eliatrope, see point 2., that's why he has Yugo's memories, because he's a copy.
But yes those ARE the eliotroped ofuws that got blown up, but the world wasn't destroyed because it happened in another dimesnion (Oropo's dimension) which destroyed it.
There is only one Eliacube, created by quilby stealing a mechasm heart, no idea how Oropo got it though.

And what plotholes need to be fixed?
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EvilOneWhichSobs|2017-10-23 09:53:42
So, a guy created by the usage of the 6 things, powerful enough to beat all the gods together, is ignored by the gods. Plus Yugo in the OVAs, had those dofuses but still wasn't able to overpower Ogrest, he almost lost. But i think we are looking too much into it, I think writers do not pay attention to these things... I guess we should just accept a bit shitty writing it and move on.


I'm pretty sure Oropo was acting in secret, the gods aren't omniscie​​​​nt they didn't even knew who or what the hell was Cornu Mollu until he was freed from his prison. Don't get me wrong they were some plotholes and incoerences  like Yugo  growing up slower because of the dragon blood in his veins even though Arty/Ignemikal from the dofus manga grew up as fast as a normal  human but it wasn't anything that ruin the entire series.
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Props to you for shouting out to Cornu Mollu
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