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Ninja Nerfed rogue D=

By JuStpLaiNtalENt February 03, 2014, 22:38:44
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My poor roublar has been ninja nerfed.... WHY!!?!!?

Ok, i agree it's fair.


Far more reasonable.

Pierce -70% lvl 140, 3 firewall procs
First Ankama intervention
Hi guys,

Those "beta" changes aren't confirmed to be part of the changelog for the next update and we are currently checking on an explanation, so please stay tuned, but in the meantime I will move this thread to the Beta server forum, which is where this thread belongs to if you have any questions regarding the Beta server. Help me keep the forums organized, thank you. smile 
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Sabi said

"I recommend to not worry too much about them as it is the Beta server and they may be just testing things around as working on class changes does take time."

We will just have to wait and see.
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Nerfs well overdue since the Rogue revamp.

I really don't know why you guys didn't expect this

Spoiler (click here to show spoiler)

Earth Enutrofs are probably next.
 
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Nerfs were needed but the effect on piercing shot reduced by 50% seems a bit big.
Piercing shot base damage is actualy pretty weak. Nerfing the effect of it could be drastic ohmy

Not sure how i feel about the firewall.
Would suck considering i just respeced two nights ago to a tri-build.

The main thing i feel that needed a nerf was to at least put a cap on how much init we can stat. Kind of like Dodge for Masqs.
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JuStpLaiNtalENt|2014-02-03 22:38:44
My poor roublar has been ninja nerfed.... WHY!!?!!?

Ok, i agree it's fair.


Far more reasonable.

Pierce -70% lvl 140, 3 firewall procs
I'm not gonna lie I laughed pretty hard at this
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Ippy|2014-02-03 22:55:48
Nerfs were needed but the effect on piercing shot reduced by 50% seems a bit big.
Piercing shot base damage is actualy pretty weak. Nerfing the effect of it could be drastic ohmy

Not sure how i feel about the firewall.
Would suck considering i just respeced two nights ago to a tri-build.

The main thing i feel that needed a nerf was to at least put a cap on how much init we can stat. Kind of like Dodge for Masqs.
I just respeced 2 days ago to full earth, so the least they can do is throw us a respec so i can, idk cut my wrists, on the bright side i have x4 xp on anything i make till 124 and x2 till 140 =3 weee time sink
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JuStpLaiNtalENt|2014-02-03 22:38:44

Pierce -70% lvl 140, 3 firewall procs

I'm sorry but I tried to figure out what '3 firewall procs' means and it's baffled me, what is 'procs'?

Kinda worried since my air/fire rogue is by far one of my favourite characters and they've just done away with my favourite class (the Feca).

This is very concerning if it is to go official... it'd not leaving me much left that I really like to be honest!
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Herpa-Derpa|2014-02-03 23:08:29
JuStpLaiNtalENt|2014-02-03 22:38:44

Pierce -70% lvl 140, 3 firewall procs

I'm sorry but I tried to figure out what '3 firewall procs' means and it's baffled me, what is 'procs'?

Kinda worried since my air/fire rogue is by far one of my favourite characters and they've just done away with my favourite class (the Feca).

This is very concerning if it is to go official... it'd not leaving me much left that I really like to be honest!
procs means like

Okay monster starts its turn on firewall takes damage

1 Proc

Monster walks 1 space

2 Proc

Monster walks 1 more space

Last Proc

After that he no longer takes damage from the firewall
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JuStpLaiNtalENt|2014-02-03 23:03:42
Ippy|2014-02-03 22:55:48
Nerfs were needed but the effect on piercing shot reduced by 50% seems a bit big.
Piercing shot base damage is actualy pretty weak. Nerfing the effect of it could be drastic ohmy

Not sure how i feel about the firewall.
Would suck considering i just respeced two nights ago to a tri-build.

The main thing i feel that needed a nerf was to at least put a cap on how much init we can stat. Kind of like Dodge for Masqs.
I just respeced 2 days ago to full earth, so the least they can do is throw us a respec so i can, idk cut my wrists, on the bright side i have x4 xp on anything i make till 124 and x2 till 140 =3 weee time sink
Lmao I am excited about the Exp changes like Dofus. Although i don't really plan on making anything new. Lvling is already VERY easy so with this it shouldn't take long to lvl at all bro. A week tops to get 120. Depending on play time of course.

Herpa-Derpa|2014-02-03 23:08:29
JuStpLaiNtalENt|2014-02-03 22:38:44

Pierce -70% lvl 140, 3 firewall procs

I'm sorry but I tried to figure out what '3 firewall procs' means and it's baffled me, what is 'procs'?

Kinda worried since my air/fire rogue is by far one of my favourite characters and they've just done away with my favourite class (the Feca).

This is very concerning if it is to go official... it'd not leaving me much left that I really like to be honest!
"Procs" Is every time the damage activates. At the start of the turn it "procs" and every time they move it "procs". This is huge, so they will only get hit by firewall damage 3 times a turn. It only takes a turn to get off it too sooo.

*edit* Someone beat me!
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Nerf Enutrofs and Masqs next please.
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Agosta|2014-02-03 23:36:05
Nerf Enutrofs and Masqs next please.
>masqs

youre funny
unless you mean pvp only 
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So for the firewall nerf, It is 3 procs in TOTAL? Or just 3 procs for that single turn, then the next turn I can move it over the wall and damage it again? Or do you have to wait for the next interval for the firewall damage to be available?

welp, bye my rogue. Hello my Dragon Osa.
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izzzjordan|2014-02-04 00:28:13
So for the firewall nerf, It is 3 procs in TOTAL? Or just 3 procs for that single turn, then the next turn I can move it over the wall and damage it again? Or do you have to wait for the next interval for the firewall damage to be available?

welp, bye my rogue. Hello my Dragon Osa.
3 procs for that turn. Which I still find it's too extreme of a nerf.
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We saw it coming because we were just discussing it last week. This is certainly something that deserves a free respec.
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Fire walls getting nerfed sure does send us a message about who dictates balance around here.
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Asthis|2014-02-04 00:44:07
We saw it coming because we were just discussing it last week. This is certainly something that deserves a free respec
This
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WHY change firewall damage when the problem is BOMB explosion damage.

Seriously... what the asdfghjkl



Ankama always leaves me asdfgh mind blown.

Always "fixing" the wrong things and designing multiplicities of idiocy. I'm fine with the piercing damage change though.. but the proc thing? why?
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aquabeauty|2014-02-04 01:41:06
WHY change firewall damage when the problem is BOMB explosion damage.

Seriously... what the asdfghjkl



Ankama always leaves me asdfgh mind blown.

Always "fixing" the wrong things and designing multiplicities of idiocy. I'm fine with the piercing damage change though.. but the proc thing? why?
The problem is in both of them
and its also beta there might be more nerfs than just what is being shown right now sabi even basically implied this

Firewall damage needed a nerf but not this badly piercing shot nerf confuses me however

Oh well it's ankama what can ya do

I'll just sit here and wait for the inevitable water mask nerfs and the nerf to carnival

 
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MiniMikeh|2014-02-04 01:45:15
aquabeauty|2014-02-04 01:41:06
WHY change firewall damage when the problem is BOMB explosion damage.

Seriously... what the asdfghjkl



Ankama always leaves me asdfgh mind blown.

Always "fixing" the wrong things and designing multiplicities of idiocy. I'm fine with the piercing damage change though.. but the proc thing? why?
The problem is in both of them
and its also beta there might be more nerfs than just what is being shown right now sabi even basically implied this

Firewall damage needed a nerf but not this badly piercing shot nerf confuses me however

Oh well it's ankama what can ya do

I'll just sit here and wait for the inevitable water mask nerfs and the nerf to carnival

Yeah but drm... nerf the damage, setting procs is just lame.. like if they reduce the damage by 10~20% that is fine.

Honestly anyone dumb enough to refuse avoiding the fire wall - should be inferno'ed. If Ankama is bothered by the bomb rogue's effect on UBs then they should FIX THE UB. Don't nerf a class across the board because of it.

One thing that bothers me the most is that fire rogues have scaling issues for the first 10~90 levels. This will further increment the toll on new players who choose to fire rogue.

They need to stop pushing new players away with the bad decisions they make. It's like the newbies just have to bring lube, sit there and take it from them. It's ridiculous. This game wont grow like that.

But AYE, you bring the drinks... I'll bring the fireworks. I expect inevitable sadida totem & air/earth nerfs as well.

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