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I agree, I just don't think Motion Sickness is quite worth the point investment required to make it worthwhile, as it stands.

But then again, I'm focusing purely on tanking over damage, so maybe if I were in the DPS mindset, I might consider it worthwhile.

For now, though, I would take a wait-and-see approach to see how balancing changes in the future might affect it.

Here's what I did/am doing. First off, put Scram at level 4 for the +2mp. Next, max Master Stabber, then max Look Around You. Afterward, if you made it this far, finish maxing Scram, and then max Sram Reflex. After that, whatever you think will benefit you.

My primary element is water, focusing on Fourberie, Petty Theft, Swindlesram, and Bloody Ripoff. I use the double as either a ranged attack, or to increase my already considerable DPS output.

I'm pumping all points into vit, even without leveling Double. The only downside to this build is that a Sram focusing on Double is better at PvE. Which is to say, this build is superb so far.

Don't forget that there are many enemies that you can AP lock with Petty Theft, which is even more effective than using the Double as a bomb. If you use your double to AP lock along side you, you can solo two of the flounders (flat fish) in Sufokia as soon as you unlock Petty Theft.

I'm at level 24 right now, and I can put out over 100 damage a round, counting my Double. It's even higher if I build up 100 stabber stacks before summoning the Double, because it gets and keeps all the benefits you have when you summon it. I can go over 120 damage with no crits, over 150 if I get a crit on Petty Theft.

It may not be quite as effective as a Double Sram at PvE, but it's better at PvP and almost just as good at PvE anyway.

Honestly, I think my build is better overall than maxing Double, if you think long-term.

Honestly, Fecas should be exactly the way they were in the previous version of Wakfu. They were absolutely perfect before. They needed balancing in the numbers department, but their spell line up was exactly what a tank/support should be like.

I don't know if anyone but me was around back then, but man were they awesome. Now they're absolute *** in comparison. I honestly don't see why they were changed. They were the most well-made class in this game's entire lifetime so far.

Why, Ankama? Why did you ruin them?

An easier way to test it is to do one fight naked, then another fight with your best fire gear on.

I have the same problem on one of my characters, as does one of my guildmates.

Did you delete a character and start over with the same name/class? That's what I assumed was the cause for me.

Ooo, I didn't know that. Good to hear. 

Then Amakna does have an inherent starting advantage over Bonta, but either way it will still even out in the end. Also, as I said in my post, we already have the seeds and all of the ingredients needed for blasting powder. None of us ever went to Amakna or made Amakna alts to do it, either. Trade is alive between the nations, one simply needs to know where to look. It's a pretty simple concept: Trade things Amakna doesn't have for things Bonta doesn't have.

If there are boars in reach of Amaknans, it must be new. Which tells me it must be the new island. I could be wrong but it makes sense given what I know of Amakna.

No one knows. Or if they do, they aren't talking.

Actually it's eca and enu. And the cost is 15-25-50-75 for those who aren't aware. To break that down into bite-size chunks, that is 33 levels worth of points. If you focus only on one of these skills, you will max it at level 34. The other 4-level support spells take 17 levels worth of points to max, and would be reached at level 18. That means the cost for these enu and eca spells is almost double those of all the other classes' 4-level spells.

However, it has been mentioned in several places and by the French devs themselves that this was untintended and that it will be fixed. So it's only a temporary problem, don't let it get you too frustrated. As for the reason, it is apparently a part of an upcoming new mechanic, but no word as to what that might actually be.


This post has been edited by Ikerus - April 27, 2011, 08:46:03.

The NA open beta does not start on the 27th. No date has been announced for the NA open beta, if there even will be one.

I basically agree with LuvenaMae. The major problem is the fact that Amaknans have the inherent monopoly on levels. That's been covered, so I won't go into that.

A somewhat lesser problem is the ability to transport between nations. Bonta has no pumpkins at all, and nettles (another ingredient to blasting powder) weren't in Bonta to begin with, either. Bonta is actually missing 2 of the components to blasting powder, not 1. Nettles can be planted in Bonta, but the planting rate is abyssmally low (20% currently) and someone has to either get to someone from Amakna to bring seeds over or has to make an Amaknan alt specifically to grind herbalism up to 50 just to transplant nettles into Bonta. It's not quite as hard as it seems, but it is still one extra step that Bontans have to take that Amaknans don't.

For the record, my Bonta-based guild has the ingredients for blasting powder and the seeds to keep them coming, so we should start seeing this particular issue slowly resolving itself soon. As for Emeath, yeah he's come to Bonta but he never manages to get much done before someone sends him home. I'm not too concerned about it as a Bontan. He's done far more harm to his own country than his enemy's. Amakna should have more problems with him and his ilk than Bonta. We've only lost one species of plant which has since been re-introduced. No harm no foul, as they say.

And, of course, as a side-effect of Bontans gaining blasting powder the disparity in levels should even out soon-ish as well. The level difference is mostly a side-effect of the travel issues, so once that is resolved the entire problem should start to fade away afterward.

It's okay to worry, but don't worry overmuch. These problems are temporary.

edit: Oh, and one more thing I think I should add to this whole discussion. Bonta actually has the overall advantage here. Bonta has one type of enemy that Amaknans can't reach, while the same is not true for Amakna. Boars cannot be reached without a Bontan character. That means that any Amaknan who wants boar gums, hairs, leather, or the set must go through a Bontan to get it or create one themselves. There is nothing in Amakna that can't be gained directly by someone who only plays a Bontan character. Therefore, in the long run, Bonta has a slight, tiny, marginal advantage over Amakna. It's not much, but there you have it.


This post has been edited by Ikerus - April 27, 2011, 08:26:13.

The spell doesn't say that it can only break items after the enemy is in the Broke state. It only says that it applies the Broke state. It's either working as intended or not worded properly.

In a related note, Broke state now actually works as intended. Before the patch it was possible to keep getting loot bags off a Broke enemy, but it doesn't seem to be possible to do this anymore. And I know that it didn't work properly before, because in one fight I cast Cutting twice on the same enemy and got 2 bags that turn.


This post has been edited by Ikerus - April 27, 2011, 07:36:12.

Actually, Treasure Tracker doesn't add to your prospecting at all, it only turns it into damage. Unless that was changed with today's patch and I didn't notice.

One thing I'll say is your opinion about the Cra's earth melee attack needs review. I've been in lots of situations that called for me dropping the earth beacon next to me and attacking it with the melee skill twice. Huge AoE damage potential.

That's why the earth beacon's AoE has empty spaces right next to it.

Actually, you made several mistakes about what the various class element trees are for. Sadidas can't heal themselves. Their earth tree isn't about limiting movement, it's about AoE and single-target damage, with a few movement-limiting side effects tacked on. Enutrof's water tree doesn't have any ability that can "shut down" an enemy. Also, the best solo class is between Cra and Iop (favoring Iop currently), Sadida might be third right now. It's definitely not in the running for the top solo class.

Otherwise, not too bad I guess. Decent enough general outlines, but there are a few misleading things in there.


This post has been edited by Ikerus - April 27, 2011, 07:28:08.

You're not taking into account the fact that it's possible to have 10ap. A 10ap All-In at max level does 80 damage with a 50% chance to double. That's still the highest possible damage in the game as far as I'm aware. I don't think there is any other ability that has a 16:1 damage-to-ap ratio on a non-crit.

The change made it weaker at low levels, but in the end it's still the same at high levels. If you were building around All-In you would be going for 10ap in either situation, and the end result is the same in both cases. (Since we're talking about one spell vs another).

At high levels, the only time it will be weaker than pre-patch is when you use some other skill first. And in those situations you'll usually be using Jackpot first, then throwing All-In to use up the rest of your AP. Think of it more as being a way to add extra damage to Jackpot instead of Jackpot vs All-In and you'll have a better view of the spell. I think it's fine like it is.

Back on topic: Loving the new exp forumla. Add my thanks to the pile.

edit: Actually, I spoke too soon about the damage potential. At max level with a 10ap build, All-In has a 50% chance to do the same damage-to-AP as Jackpot, but that was the case before the patch. So it still is the same at maximum potential, just somewhat weaker on average compared to pre-patch. My point about being add-on damage rather than a main attack is still valid, however.


This post has been edited by Ikerus - April 27, 2011, 07:43:33.

Hah. What gaming industry have you been living in?

Yeah, I knew the skill points were a mistake. I wasn't aware it was going to be fixed so soon, though, is why I mentioned it. If that's the case, then it would be worth it.

After it does get fixed, I'll make a test char to see what Ancients are about. Who knows, maybe Ancients' attack will upgrade. If not, then I agree with you. Combat Training is more important. If I were going to play honestly with a drheller pet, I would go 1 point in PaF, 2 in CT, get PaF to 3, then max CT. See where I stood afterward.

I got Jackpot, All-In, Cr@ps, Fu-Shi-Miaow after around 10 re-rolls. I would rather have had FSM be Double or Quits, but it wasn't worth rerolling yet again after getting the first 3 awesome spells.

Plan to put all my points into AP and shoot for 9 AP, 10 if possible.