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Sufokian king Odeen = lazy crab Ok, i dont want enter politics, but im angry and feeling dumb.

My friends whine, coz i recommend them choose sufokia as nation. Beach, sea, positive vibes, nice music. GOOD. And they wanna some sandbox light gaming like eee.. gather some plants, cut cute ash trees, running gobbal dung and do some cool chalenges etc.

Why other nations do all thhis things for citizens and Odeen cant?

Instead of, this crabs - kraed, odeen, all time haunting mobs, loot. Hey, lazy crabs, start do smth for ur nation or leave goverment for anyone else.


This post has been edited by KingozZ - April 02, 2012, 10:56:08.

Use your brains please, she is hardworking and getting money to open drago-turkeys because nobody else is doing it.


Feel free to change nation, or how about... you plant and help your nation too.
You can't expect governor to do all of that..

I don't even get what you're complaining about.

-Run dungeons : Obv you can do it with a friend unless you're saying that the Gov should run it with you.
-Cut trees and stuffs : Well, duh, you can obviously do it too unless you feel like chopping only and not planting while demanding that the Gov replant everything for you.
-Challenge : ...What? Nothing wrong with this unless you're complaining that there's not enough people participating and blaming the Gov for it.

Nyeheh~


This post has been edited by Zeitzbach - April 02, 2012, 13:00:34.

im common, casual player, im not the KING OF SUFOKIA. If u wanna be cool and win election, do smth for ur nation, gotcha? I am care about my words that sufokia = edem. My friends think that sufokia = CRABOLANDIA. Is it's ok? No.

I dont understand.


What is it that you want to be done?

look thread amaknian ecologis? u can wisp him and he plant any seed.

What about sufokians? Nothing.

my friends tell me, that amakna do some nice challenges.

What about sufokians? Nothing.

Which tree in noob location in sufokia? 15 lvl and 5-6 ash trees with 3-4 ppls on it. WTF? I must fight for it?

etc.


This post has been edited by KingozZ - April 02, 2012, 13:14:48.

Alright.

I get where you are going.


Sufokia has a lot lower population. And due to some recent bugs Sufokia also suffered tax income (there was a free zaap to every nations city's but Sufokias own, so most people used Brak, Bonta and Ama markets (no tax for sufo)).

Low population and low tax = low challenge system.

It's too bad.


it is not impossible to go to another nation and do their challenges.


I take great pride in our ecologist of Amakna, Srce, he is probably one in a thousand who honestly cares enough to work for the environment so actively as he does. I wouldnt expect to find *ANYONE* like him ever.

But perhaps Odeen should find a better ecologist then. Maybe you?

I should remind you (all of you) that ecology is everyones responsibility, even if you have an ecologist to make up for 1 or 2 idiots on the server.


What you don't know is that Sufo was the first to clear this bugged free zaap, and the first to clear elite riktus dungeon entrance. Just because you have some few issues now doesnt mean that Odeen is lazy.

Whining and writing like a 12y old on the forums isn't working either. I couldnt even understand you. Take some responsibility if you want to see some changes, contact Odeen directly and ask what's up with this ecology.

FIRST to clear zap? Arkadia as governor do it, not that crab odeen. Odeen do nothing.

12 years old? Whine? Ye, it's all about me. Contact odeen? I wisp him a lot, always no response.

Remember

Gov != Slaves.

Nyeheh~

Okay I guess there's a few points to address here, though salleks have covered some I'll reiterate as that seems to be what you want.

Just because you don't directly see things happening, that doesn't mean they aren't happening. I've never seen you plant a single tree or fix any ecosystem, does this mean that you haven't done anything too? No, it just means I haven't seen you do it. It's the same with government.

Sufokia has an extremely low population and bad markets, this means that we have very low tax income. Whilst the over nations like Bonta and Amakna can afford a challenge every few days, it has taken us over THREE WEEKS to get the tax money to even afford one. There's no magical way to suddenly fix this, short of convincing 1000 people to join Sufokia, which isn't happening. It doesn't matter who the government of Sufokia is, this is never going to get any better. We've been discussing what to buy for a couple of days now, and we'll probably get one this weekend.

For a similar reason Sufokian government rarely makes threads on the forums - we've made threads about stuff before and we get almost no people taking interest. Amakna can do stuff like this because they have such a huge playerbase, so there is enough people visiting the forums to make it worthwhile.

The mines/zaap/elite riktus dungeon was opened by a combination of my guild and Atlantis (the guild Ark is in). Ark rallied some people and took bombs off people, but the vast majority of the work was done by myself, Ludio, Idio and Nerida. Ark was only present for 1, maybe 2 of the floors being opened whilst the 4 of us were there for all 5. Yes she was governor, no that doesn't mean she did it alone. She's pretty quick to tell people it was entirely her though.

Our gov has worked our asses off mining to open multiple dragoturkies, and where possible keeping the ecosystem balanced. Things like steam shore are impossible to balance due to the way mollusks auto repopulate themselves over the limit, so that will never stay at 3 stars for more than a few hours.

We can't monitor every area of Sufokia every second of the day. The low level areas have people cutting trees all day. If we wanted to keep the exact right ratio of ash/hazel/chestnut we would literally have to have someone there 24 hours a day, every day. This isn't going to happen. If people send us a report about low resources we fix it, and that's the best we can do. Everyone that plays this game has a life too (well... most people). This is a game, not a job, we're not paid for doing anything and get no rewards for doing it. Don't expect people to work their asses off the entire day they are online and never ever get to do things for themselves.

Regarding getting no responses: I can't speak for others, but I've met you in game once so far. And the first thing you did was attack my group with an army of your alts to deny us the chance of fighting Moowolf. Then you sent threats to Odeen in pm about attacking government, and Odeen tells me this is the only time she's receiving any whispers from you. After we won the election again you then started attacking our new government members without provocation. Now you've made a thread where you're demanding we do whatever you want, and the only incentive you're giving us is constantly insulting us in every post you make.

I'd be more inclined to listen to you if you weren't such a hostile, venomous player. Sadly absolutely everything I've seen you do and heard about you has been negative, so any criticisms you have I couldn't really care less about.

You knwo it doesnt really matter if goverment will fix ecosystem if players won't keep it fixed after.

I remember that i kept replanting api tree's every day and another day there was not even a single api tree left. Each day i had hope someone will replant them after cutting if he/she needed wood but this never happened so please don't blame goverment for eco terrorism. Ecologist might replant some resources but then when it log out someone comes online and cut everythign out. Then you log in and see nothing has been done. So sorry but you seem to not know even half of the true.

Kraed you act like you care for any criticism at all and we both know that is a big fat lie. You have also quite the history of displaying rude and hostile languange to others, including members of arkadias gov, wich you were vice-governor (you failed to mention that) wich makes matters worse.

So, please get off that high horse of yours. If anything, you should apologise to me personaly of what happen, and to someone who have a valid complain about the gov.

Hello Arkadia here

Kraed i missed only 2 floors in our mines and i made bombs for 1 floor alone so don't tell people i did nothing ok? I asked people for support and they helped, that's meaning i had some reputation. However you are working to open dragoexpresses...i donated myself one with 2000 kamas once(took me 1 day to mint them), while you needed 4 weeks to open 2 dragos...Start doing something lazies or get out of there ;D People are right that our current govment has worse relationships with other's govments than before...Good luck people, we are watching your movements  

@demetz
You're right. I apologise for you insulting my guild without provocation on the politics channel. We're completely open to criticism, but people like you and Alaska 'criticise' by being extremely insulting and aggroing. You expect courtesy, you expect us to help and you expect us to give our free time to do this. You offer us threats and insults as an incentive to do this, and never actually do anything to help yourself. Kind of funny seeing you telling me to get off my high horse when you're the one yelling complaints from afar without ever bothering to get involved. Also your 'valid complaint about gov' was a big post that came across as (surprise surprise) insulting and trolling. It wasn't polite, it wasn't well constructed and it certainly wasn't reasonable. Nonetheless you might have also noticed we have a different head guard and head soldier now, which I believe was your original complaint (at least their speeches). I made a courteous response before thanking for the feedback, dealt with the issue, and still you're pissed off. But hey, I guess it's all a big fat lie right?

@Ark
I didn't say you did nothing, but you act like absolutely everything that happened whilst you were in government was solely your doing, which it wasn't. You never credit the people that helped you, you never thank people unless they ask you to thank them. Now you say you mined 2000 - you told me at the time you got 3 or 4 people to help you mine that. Once again I don't see you crediting the people that helped you. Also yes you put in kamas to open a dragoturkey in one day.. and that took you two weeks as well. We opened 2 in the first 2 weeks of government so that's twice as many as you did. (We've only been in gov 2 and a half weeks).

You're telling us people are watching and we're not doing anything, but you're also saying in the same paragraph we've put in more than you did in the same amount of time? So which is it? Also last time I checked I seem to get along fairly alright with Amakna and Brakmar's governments (I party with quite a few of them on a daily basis too, feel free to ask VQ or Mila if you don't believe me). The wars we have every week are mutually agreed things - it's nothing to do with bad relations.

But hey you've watching? Ruh roh. What are you, the yakuza? Maybe instead of 'watching' you could also take part and help out with opening the remaining dragoturkies - you don't need to be in government to do that.

If we were doing such a horrendously bad job as you guys say we are, I don't think so many people would have been this quick to defend us. In the current implementation, there's actually not a huge amount a government with no tax bucks and poor population can really do for a nation that is visible to others. I can assure you we do spend a hell of a lot of time replanting crops and mining for the turkies though.

No one never asked me to thank him/her, you didn't read my gov's speeches I've mined 2kk in 2 days and just 1 person supported me with some manganese (+ your silly treasurer Ludio insulted me that i wanted to scam him what is not truth - I won't even comment it cause you enjoyed him and then apologized )
About drago...I won't support your govment with opening drago because at the end you will tell that you did everything like you did before ;]

I just hope some Sufokians will start thinking and vote next time for more clever guys than you, but for now enjoy your little ''pony'' world.

Reverse psycology? I told in the politics channel that I personally (opinion) disliked your guilds name and did not find it funny. I supose assknights is meant to be funny. This was my big insult. Your reply was "f*ck you". Let the people decide what is insulting without provocation.

My post is still there perhaps you should re-read and keep in mind that irony and sarcasm are diferent from trolling.

Are all of you for real?

We're playing a game here, number 1 thing a game is supposed to be is fun and a great time for a player. Do you see any of the above in the posts so far?

It honestly doesn't matter who insulted who first and who did the most work, because seriously Arkadia if you want to brag, I'm welcome to do the same! I levelled to miner 60 in 3 days and opened the turkeys in 2 days worth of mining for each, the help I got? 200 manganese at best and few donations that didn't exceed 100 kama, pretty much the same things you got right? I still opened two turkeys instead of one. ...And at the same time I replanted Sufokia's fields over and over no matter how many times they got completely wiped out. Sure I got a bit more "lazy" lately because I wanted to get a little time for myself and play, the new patch came out and I wanted to see the new content too, but that doesn't mean I neglect anything, I'm still mining, still planting and still a still only level 68 since I didn't get to grind thanks to all this.

Am I complaining? No! Is it worth bragging? No!
I wanted this, it's been quite fun so far and I try my best even if people don't usually see it.

And if you're gonna talk behind my back first chance you get, I don't care, I'm having fun and this is still a game and you're still a complete stranger.

So really why can't you just calm down about it too? I doesn't matter who gets to be Governor and who writes funny quotes someone else doesn't like! Because hell, why do you people even play this game if you don't like funny things and ridiculous references? Isn't this supposed to be fun?

well composed text but childish provocations..

like seriously..

oh and hey Odeen odeen's the best among the rest

i know you know who keeps telling you that since its anyway true hihi

yeah Lazy crab, go Odeen!

I love how members of sufokian governments sell their stuff in bonta markets then claim we don't have enough tax money, well obviously when every1 is using bontarian markets, noone will use ours therefore we won't get money the tax % is irrelevant.

although don't get me wrong, arkadia was also a total moron

so I guess if I had to choose between Arkadia and Odeen I would prefer Odeen although I'd like none.