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Amakna Politics and Lion Heart Since Open Beta 1 Lion Heart has have been gaining lots of hate, their mainly criticized for being aggressive and abusing the game mechanics. Before you post a comment below telling me I am Russian or they bribed me to do this, nobody has bribed me at all and I am simply putting this out there to remove all confusion and uncertainty people may hold towards this guild.

First of I will give some credibility towards what ill post below, some of you may know me from in game but to those who don't. My in game name is Nanners and I have been playing this game since August, During open beta. I once held the governor title and was the leader of one of the biggest guilds named Black Twilight.





Now that you guys have proof I will continue with my argument, lately there have been lots of criticism given towards Lion Heart, I would like to state that most of these accusations are false/exaggerated. When people accuse each other for aggro, you must always consider the possibility of the accusation being false and the only way you can truly trust them is if you see it for your self. Now this can be a screen shot (like the ones I have given above) or your friends may have seen it in the game. After the person has given proof you also have to consider their reason for this, if people take random screenshots of themselves getting attacked they probably had a good reason to be attacked. Now this "good reason" can be something small like trampling on seeds or it could be something big like revenge for a previous aggro. But whatever the reason it is extremely likely that it wont be stated in the post/thread.

I consider Lion Heart to be a very strong and competitive guild, like all humans when they get insulted they will retaliate and you should not make assumptions that they did this because their Russians or because their evil. You cannot be stereotypical towards someone and judge them from what others say, you should hold your own opinion towards matters like these and the best way of finding out is just playing with them. One of the biggest things I like about Wakfu is the community, people help each other and respect each other in this game and thats a very rare thing to find in most mmorpgs. The pathetic taunting and slander ruining the game and the way people see it was.

All im really asking for you to do is to take a step back, look at the posts, the taunting, the racism and to really consider if the things your reading are true or not.

If you want to talk to me just post a comment below or message Nanners in game, and you are free to post your opinions below.

Nanners


This post has been edited by Nanaers - March 17, 2012, 15:07:15.

tyvm

Thanks for that post, Nanners  

agree totaly.. and thanks man, i myself was last time in dungeon with a lion heart and they are very kind people ^^ sad is only most of them don't speak english :/, but oh well about the guild attacks.. every one has a reason to do something like that, im pretty sure they had a good reason to attack, some people just take stuff way too serious or they just racist and hate the russian country.

Like I've said, I'd respect Lion Heart if they stayed out of politics or were in one of the under populated nations (then we'd have alot more fun). I've played alongside russians in many games and have been in PvP/RPK guilds so I have no problem with such people, its more the fact that LH are wanting to stack everything in their favour and dominate. That kind of thing kills games by discouraging new players into the game and gradually making others quit. It also makes for very bad PvP.

The fact is that they've lied and acted like complete children towards other players in the game. You need only look at their attitude on the forums and their argument against Wimbie, who albeit being far from a good governor did not deserve to be killed repetitively and bullied to the point where he just gave up leveling. LH take great pride in what they did, you can see it all over the forum. That alone speaks volumes.

Imagine if you were doing some mining and had one kill you so he could have more to himself? Then you argued your case only to have the whole guild come down on you for it? Apparently this behavior is quite common and I've even witnessed it myself on a few occasions. Sure you might be able to avoid them for so long but what if it were eventually you? Would you really just cower and accept it?

They speak alot about being strong and nonsense like that. It takes alot more strength to oppose them rather than join them and play under their heel. I could imagine being in their guild being something akin to always playing a game on easy mode, self gratifyingly boring.


This post has been edited by Misfitz - March 18, 2012, 02:27:20.

all i can say its that i missed so much isthore on gov, and english at control of the amakna!

Hmm, I am wondering whether that person who went on a massive attacking rampage at the Shay Mines was from Lion Hearts... I have a hunch they were. Have also heard bad things about a particular person currently apart of the government at the moment...

I do find everyone else in Lion Hearts to be fine people however.

rofl if u mean at amakna copper mine :p that was me.. i attacked 3 people there, and i am from a other nation not from amakna xD,idk why u whinning over someone geting killed in a mine, its just a game -.- its not like someone dies irl roflmao.. and besides u can respawn o_O
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Jokes on me  


This post has been edited by kilerama22 - March 19, 2012, 04:55:21.

Hello, everyone.

I would like to contribute to this thread by saying few things.

It's 100% true that the Lion hearts have been aggroing every government member since the election. I was/am the challenger of the nation (on holiday so don't know atm.) and i was attacked every 10 minutes by Lion heart members (asked them why and they said "Your a friend of Wimbly so we must kill you").
They have been actively hunting/tracking/killing every government member since the start. If you want proof, it's straight on their own forums(Just use google translator or something to go about(Try searching for news about the location of the prey "Shieldkitty")) Click here! 


This post has been edited by Shotakitty1 - March 19, 2012, 07:53:54.

Woot I see my name up there =D=D.

stop hating people -.- its geting on my nerves.. lion hearts here lion hearts there.. blablabla just shut up and play the dam game

And we dont deny it, lol.
Did u read all 'LH tyranny' theme or only posts of ur friends?
Bers and I give a huge comments about all attacks.

Tbh, i lol'd so hard after reading the messages so i stopped reading onward :3

if you don't have anything good or smart to say then just drop it and don't come here cuz i can clearly see youre a racist little kid who hates russians so dam mutch and you are so dam ignorant, oh and lion hearts are awsome people, and no i am not in there guild nor in there nation but i still like them, even tho some of them don't speak english.. (so what?) go cry somewere else or go to ur momy whining,

oh and you probably gona come up with some wana be smart reply to my post or maybe even dumber, just becus youre bored doesn't mean you can come here and talk shit at people, go and find something else to do.


This post has been edited by kilerama22 - March 20, 2012, 07:07:45.

Im entering the discussion because today I wrote this in another thread:

"March 19,

Poachers and Raiders from Amakna and Bonta came, saw and were defeated today in the Rokokos area in Sufokia.

It was a hot and calm afternoon today levling in the rokoko area in sufokia when poachers from Amakna "Lion Hearts" and Bonta "Defenderspl" decided to come and throw a little party. Despite Myrmidons trapper Healbot best efforts to plant rokokos, she couldnt keep up with theforeigners who were mowing down the scarce rokokos in that zone. Even after they were warned. It was hightime for some Sufokian Dance Party. Myrmidon style. The Bontarian lineup was a fire iop and a xelor both fire, and the Amaknian lineup was a air cra (no suprise there) and you guessed it - a fire iop. Bontarians took the hard learned dance lesson with humility, considering they only said one word: "Noobs". Amaknians were much more vivid on their part, stating that "Our Guild [Lionhearts] will genocide you!" Between this two groups our party was between a rock and a hard place, but in the end they were sent home in good order with all involved puting a good dance. Those two partys were obviously not sastified and returned for one more dance. They were eager to learn and learn they did! A second time. Will there be more to come? Stay tuned in for that may be the case!"

It was my first close contact with lion hearts (besides wars probably). Amakna have quite a guild of mischiefs so it seems! The guild Myrmidons dont have anything against Lion Hearts. In truth that statement -Our Guild will genocide you - is priceless and made our day on the spot  

Man, I wish I was at Sufokia during that "genocide".

Apparently, from what I've been reading on the forums, LH members love beating the shit out of every single player they meet. Well, that's a bit exaggerated.

Tkurwa, if you don't deny (and subjectively accepts this as a true fact) that you and your guild-mates hunted down members of the government either because they were part of said government or because you did not get elected at that time, then all I can say is that there is something inherently wrong with you Lion Hearts people.

And before you ask, no. I don't care if they are Russian or Italian mafia, what matters is IF they are or not mafia.

I'd probably stop giving them labels like that. They're children, they'll probably start thinking it makes them cool or something . Then again, sadly, they're probably even the types to take any kind of attention and twist it into some kind of delusional pro for themselves *sigh*


This post has been edited by Misfitz - March 20, 2012, 09:28:06.

Im just sharing what happened between me and LH. Its not racist. It's just plain truth.

Now, now, Lions do hunt down people, but who does remember Made In Brasil + half of Bonta flood that appeared in every nation shortly after and before elections in Bonta? I think only Darkih' appearance put a pause to that.
And we're bringing on the racism topic again. Oh COME ON! Feeling offended as nation may be reason of Lion's attitude and acting as closed brotherhood, even when they chose now other guilds' members into government they're freely communicating in own language. But it's FEELING offended and then acting that makes people believe the stereotype. Who knows how it started, I believe in deep benefit for Amakna - and other nations, with Bonta on top - lies abandoning this untrust.

It reminds me tiny guild war I accidentally stepped in when visiting Gnashville; Polish and Russian guilds fighting each other in air filled with curses and words hardly appreciated by lady's ears. Reason was Iop diplomacy used by one of Polish guildmembers in mines, - and a flood of stereotypical lines and stiff pride, plus lines even for me as not connected with conflict were painful, that all, as I believe, lead soon after to conflict more serious than it deserved.
In a game when only words show others who you are, things you say may perform miracles - or cause a disaster, and I believe some of you may already know this.


This post has been edited by Jannet-fenix - March 20, 2012, 14:24:01.

i totaly agree with you, and i also ask for a request from mods.. please close the topic befor even more anger is being spammed on this topic thank you for your understanding