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[Amakna] Lion heart tyranny
Eccentric Moogrr * Member Since 2007-12-03
posté March 15, 2012, 14:08:48 | #81

Quote (wimbie @ 15 March 2012 12:11) *
ok hi everyone its wimbie
first i wont be going for cuvernor enymore i know im bad at it
and i know that i should of not done that NOW
but still it was my first time and everyone has their first time
and instead of helping you started to kill us
and btw the main reson for me to go in elections was
that i was too angry to let you guys go for it
let me explain to you bersa attaced me before the election before enything
in the mines just so he can get the damn iron ores lol
i didint even know them then
thats why i wrote in my election speach that im am not citizen killer like bersa
then you guys got mad and told everybody that im lier even tho im not
and i started to get negative opnions
still i wanna get this all behind us and wont run in elections again
lets face it i suck at this shit
now please stop killing us and we all can live in peace

ps sorry my very bad writing skills


Dear Wimbie!
Dont confuse the murder citizens and our guild war which was started by your words.
Fight for resources is a normal thing in Wakfu game since its start. I killed you first time in mine, after that your guildmates trying to kill me too but they couldn`t.
And it was your choise - you start saying that i`m killing citizens of Amakna (without any proof, just words) and that how you get so many votes. Your SECOND election campain was builded on lie. We all remember your first fail when you started to turn on all laws like a newbe and turn on law which forbidden duels. Then you tried to turn it off, spend 500 CP and lost your spot. And then our war begun.
What we have now?
Weak governer with useless and helpless politic: you refuse to give us spots in goverment and prefer to put there random newbies, turn on Disobedience law, our taxes for a fex day was about 50% at ALL locations and we still didnd get any simple and cheap challenge.




28 positive opinions (all your guild?);
44 neitral (alts? or just ppl that vote for you cause you said that you are not a killer like Bersa, huh?)
71 negative opinions.

You was killed for your politic actions and you will get killed for it at future not a once.
I hate you and your guild for lack of talent and spreading false rumors that cause resonance in the society.
There will be no peace until your 'friends' will stop writing this crap about me and my guildmates on forum.

En7roop 15 March 2012 - 13:52
Some interesting facts about current Amakna governor:
1. He was killed more than 100 times since he was elected.
2. He did nothing for Amakna and missed the event to capture Lord's Pasture (however it still was captured by certain people).
3. Before the release he registered several account and created maximum characters to vote for himself.
4. Because of 1, he gained less than 20 levels since election and whenever he comes online he never speaks to anyone, including his best friends.


This post has been edited by FoxCommanders - March 15, 2012, 14:23:20.
Featherless Piwi * Member Since 2011-08-18
posté March 15, 2012, 14:11:45 | #82

Quote (Kalapuikko @ 15 March 2012 14:02) *

You're funny junky.


posté March 15, 2012, 14:21:56 | #83
I don't get it why ppl whine to Wimbie about taxes or challenges since he doesn't even control them???
Treasurer sets the tax rates, and he doesn't need Governors acceptance to it, he can put there what ever he wants, so at least keep that bullshit out of Wimbie. And what Wimbie wrote to the election speech, was not a lie at all, it was a pure fact you just admitted yourself, Bersa. Thanks...


This post has been edited by Kalapuikko - March 15, 2012, 14:22:14.
Overweighted Chafer * Member Since 2011-10-25
posté March 15, 2012, 14:25:26 | #84
Stop ingoring me, tell us you and your friends nicknames ingame  


Narcissistic Larva * Member Since 2005-11-27
posté March 15, 2012, 14:26:34 | #85

Quote (MasterVong @ 15 March 2012 13:30) *
U dont even have your own opinion, u heard something from someone. And now with foaming at your mouth you trying to prove something.

Oh puleeze. I have personal experience with some of your members. Keep bullshitting mate. ;D
 


This post has been edited by tiefblau - March 15, 2012, 14:32:11.
Featherless Piwi * Member Since 2011-08-18
posté March 15, 2012, 14:35:59 | #86
I see ITT




Eccentric Moogrr * Member Since 2011-10-28
posté March 15, 2012, 14:47:48 | #87

Quote (Kalapuikko @ 15 March 2012 14:21) *
I don't get it why ppl whine to Wimbie about taxes or challenges since he doesn't even control them???
Treasurer sets the tax rates, and he doesn't need Governors acceptance to it, he can put there what ever he wants, so at least keep that bullshit out of Wimbie. And what Wimbie wrote to the election speech, was not a lie at all, it was a pure fact you just admitted yourself, Bersa. Thanks...


Technically, though the treasurer can set taxes, the same can be said for the gov or vice gov (both have pretty much the same powers as the other spots in gov, with only gov having the power to elect a vice), so the gov or vice gov can set the taxes as they see fit, not just the treasurer (at least, this was like this in beta, dunno if this got changed in release).

And its the governors' duty to oversee every aspect of the nation and its structure, since he's the 'leader' of the 'team'.

Ergo, if someone in gov messes up, the governor himself is directly responsible for that person's actions (after all, he did place that person in that position of power).

So yeah, Wimbie is 'partly' to blame as well, if not for electing the treasurer, then for not correcting/preventing the Treasurer's mistakes (in this case, placing absurd tax rates in Amakna).

And anywhoo, I'd vote LH even IF i was/wasn't getting a spot, cause I'd rather see Amakna get a strong, more experienced government backing it up. Face the facts, they may be tyrannical in people's eyes, but they certainly got the job done back in beta, and THAT'S what matters in the end...


This post has been edited by ManicMansion - March 15, 2012, 14:52:27.
posté March 15, 2012, 15:27:13 | #88
I'm sorry but Lion heart don't deserve any kind of responsibility with the way they act. They constantly lie and manipulate just to get their votes. Who you need is someone experienced and not likely to shit all over any freedom you might have. You can't say anything they don't like without being harassed by them. Take Wimbie for example, a simple beginner to the whole thing. He said a few words Lion heart didn't like and so they sent a team of power leveled characters to constantly hunt him down and rape him. I mean, sure he said something bad and wasn't a particularly good governor, but terrorizing him for it like that? Jeebus, talk about a bunch of delicate social rejects. I'm all for finding any excuse to PvP but I don't like piling the odds against the opposition or killing an easy target repetitively, its just purely spiteful and no fun at all. If you value your freedom then just stay clear of em, they're better off as rabid dogs to PvP against and let loose upon other nations rather than leaders who will ruin so much of the game for others. I mean, whenever a guild like this tends to grasp power you notice a gradual decline in server population and activity... don't let the same happen to Wakfu!

There will be other worthwhile candidates, ones that have both experience and respect. That I can ensure you of. Vote for them, not Lionhearts.

I've not been a target of theirs yet, merely an outside observer who has seen it all happen and talked to a few of the key figures on each side to get an idea of exactly whats going on. I guarantee you that I will probably be a target now simply because I share my honest opinion that counters their interests.


This post has been edited by Misfitz - March 15, 2012, 15:40:24.
Bellaphone Lover * Member Since 2011-05-13
posté March 15, 2012, 15:56:34 | #89

Quote (Kalapuikko @ 15 March 2012 13:39) *
EDIT: And what comes to the negative opinions; over 75% of them are from LH members ONLY, if not even 100%, so go figure!!!

Lol? Aside LH affaire, the wimbie governemet was just dreadful, what are you triyng to do?

Italian here, i voted for wimbie cause i dont like so much the governemt formed mostly by language sub-community, but this was a huge mistake.

One of this 71 negative points was mine, and now i will support LH, cause amakna now is like third world and we need some veteran.

LH propose nice nickname for their governemt, and they have the experience we need.

If then they go crazy we just need to get rid of them, not so big buisness.


posté March 15, 2012, 16:10:00 | #90
Theres plenty more experience out there that isn't lionheart I believe I know of one particular future candidate that will easily qualify for a good governor without being an ass. I won't say their name yet to avoid another launch of propaganda and shit against them though.

I think most of us who voted wimbie are only holding positive votes till we're ready to vote another candidate. Not sure right now since I've been travelling the past few days but we may have started switching to negative votes now.

I'd respect Lionheart if they stayed out of politics. Its always good to have a faction like them to pvp against. Its not good when such a faction gain some control over a large portion of the game world though.


Bellaphone Lover * Member Since 2011-05-13
posté March 15, 2012, 16:21:26 | #91

Quote (Misfitz @ 15 March 2012 16:10) *
Theres plenty more experience out there that isn't lionheart I believe I know of one particular future candidate that will easily qualify for a good governor without being an ass. I won't say their name yet to avoid another launch of propaganda and shit against them though.

I think most of us who voted wimbie are only holding positive votes till we're ready to vote another candidate. Not sure right now since I've been travelling the past few days but we may have started switching to negative votes now.

I'd respect Lionheart if they stayed out of politics. Its always good to have a faction like them to pvp against. Its not good when such a faction gain some control over a large portion of the game world though.
If you dont noticed, there's currently election in amakna. Just hurry if you want to do something.

But i think is a little lately, LH doing good setting up thier campaign so early.


posté March 15, 2012, 16:33:31 | #92

Quote (Jurambalco @ 15 March 2012 16:21) *

Quote (Misfitz @ 15 March 2012 16:10) *
Theres plenty more experience out there that isn't lionheart I believe I know of one particular future candidate that will easily qualify for a good governor without being an ass. I won't say their name yet to avoid another launch of propaganda and shit against them though.

I think most of us who voted wimbie are only holding positive votes till we're ready to vote another candidate. Not sure right now since I've been travelling the past few days but we may have started switching to negative votes now.

I'd respect Lionheart if they stayed out of politics. Its always good to have a faction like them to pvp against. Its not good when such a faction gain some control over a large portion of the game world though.
If you dont noticed, there's currently election in amakna. Just hurry if you want to do something.

But i think is a little lately, LH doing good setting up thier campaign so early.

Some need campaign, some don't. For me, it's enough to see a LH member in the elections and I'll vote for another one if possible. And I can assure you, I am definitely not the only one there...


Bellaphone Lover * Member Since 2011-05-13
posté March 15, 2012, 16:54:37 | #93

Quote (Kalapuikko @ 15 March 2012 16:33) *

Quote (Jurambalco @ 15 March 2012 16:21) *

Quote (Misfitz @ 15 March 2012 16:10) *
Theres plenty more experience out there that isn't lionheart I believe I know of one particular future candidate that will easily qualify for a good governor without being an ass. I won't say their name yet to avoid another launch of propaganda and shit against them though.

I think most of us who voted wimbie are only holding positive votes till we're ready to vote another candidate. Not sure right now since I've been travelling the past few days but we may have started switching to negative votes now.

I'd respect Lionheart if they stayed out of politics. Its always good to have a faction like them to pvp against. Its not good when such a faction gain some control over a large portion of the game world though.
If you dont noticed, there's currently election in amakna. Just hurry if you want to do something.

But i think is a little lately, LH doing good setting up thier campaign so early.

Some need campaign, some don't. For me, it's enough to see a LH member in the elections and I'll vote for another one if possible. And I can assure you, I am definitely not the only one there...

Now i see that the other candidate is from legion. Great thing, no more doubts.


This post has been edited by Jurambalco - March 15, 2012, 16:54:49.
posté March 15, 2012, 17:56:57 | #94

Quote (FoxCommanders @ 15 March 2012 14:08) *

En7roop 15 March 2012 - 13:52
Some interesting facts about current Amakna governor:
1. He was killed more than 100 times since he was elected.
2. He did nothing for Amakna and missed the event to capture Lord's Pasture (however it still was captured by certain people).
3. Before the release he registered several account and created maximum characters to vote for himself.
4. Because of 1, he gained less than 20 levels since election and whenever he comes online he never speaks to anyone, including his best friends.

Doesn't speak to anyone? LOL. We are chattering a lot all day long, even if he's not online in-game. So that 'fact' is bullshit - once again. You're making up more lies than anyone else and keep saying we are liars, SIGH... Where's your proof, hmm?

Secondly, he didn't create multiple accounts as far as I know. However, I wonder how you could know that...? It's impossible unless you hacked Wakfu's databases or something... Explain this, pls. I'm getting curious.


Featherless Piwi * Member Since 2012-02-03
posté March 15, 2012, 19:00:30 | #95
im bored, this hater is 2 fat


posté March 15, 2012, 19:14:13 | #96

Quote (BookEater @ 15 March 2012 19:00) *
im bored, this hater is 2 fat
We really want this attitude running things? :/


Overweighted Chafer * Member Since 2011-10-25
posté March 15, 2012, 19:14:34 | #97
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This post has been edited by tkurwa - March 15, 2012, 19:17:11.
posté March 15, 2012, 19:34:36 | #98
That's very nice, but that doesn't change my opinion of you guys.
I bet you benefit from that more than any other atm...


posté March 16, 2012, 15:58:11 | #99
Something I learned from EvE Online is that a guild formed around a community is strong. The community can be based on language, as it is here, or simply aorund other websites (I am sure there are some goons around here ^^, they are everywhere).

Any community based guild sticks together like glue because they have similar values, goals and outlooks. These things make them harder to break. They are generally stronger then guilds simply formed in the game.

You know, just an observation.


posté March 16, 2012, 16:51:50 | #100

Quote (DasRav @ 16 March 2012 15:58) *
Something I learned from EvE Online is that a guild formed around a community is strong. The community can be based on language, as it is here, or simply aorund other websites (I am sure there are some goons around here ^^, they are everywhere).

Any community based guild sticks together like glue because they have similar values, goals and outlooks. These things make them harder to break. They are generally stronger then guilds simply formed in the game.

You know, just an observation.

Yeah. That's why they ignore what others have to say, cuz they only have their own thing - they're not interested what others want, they only get what they themselves and their guildies want.