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[Amakna] Lion heart tyranny
posté March 12, 2012, 00:44:23 | #21

Quote (Oberyn-Martell @ 12 March 2012 00:37) *
Get used to it that's how most russians behave in mmos. Nothing new to see here. Just pray they never win elections because you then will see what they can do when they have the ability to do real harm.
i see that u dont know that Lion Heart was in goverment for 3 month in beta and Amakna almost always has all islands and great economy  


posté March 12, 2012, 00:49:24 | #22
I do know and I also know your members attack their own nation and allies and that's the real issue here. So I guess amakna can have a strong tirany or a weak democracy.


posté March 12, 2012, 00:53:27 | #23
Is that a surprise that tempers flare if you get killed several times a day every day?! I hate that you throw that ''racist card'' ...someone might have said that your leader cant speak english ,is that really racist? Wimbie had to choose the first people to the government from our guild just because we didnt know anyone to trust ...now they have people from 5-6 different guilds ,and they are searching someone to fill the ecologist and army general boots. By killing the members of government you achieve nothing.


posté March 12, 2012, 00:54:07 | #24
Can u tell me nicknames or guildnames that was attack 'for no reason'?


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So I guess amakna can have a strong tirany or a weak democracy.

Eh, u wanna listen ur hate, not facts. It`s ur choise.


posté March 12, 2012, 01:00:13 | #25
Guess attacking ones government who won their elections fairly and trying to force their guild members out of the guild by terrorizing them is fair and square in your eyes. After all if you decide to attack someone they surely must have done something wrong surely if only by being in your way. You're bad guys. Own up to it and don't expect to win any popularity contests.


posté March 12, 2012, 01:18:22 | #26

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Guess attacking ones government who won their elections fairly and trying to force their guild members out of the guild by terrorizing them is fair and square in your eyes. After all if you decide to attack someone they surely must have done something wrong surely if only by being in your way. You're bad guys. Own up to it and don't expect to win any popularity contests.

After getting killed by Bersa twice today without a single reason (was even afk on the 2nd time) I whispered him about it and told him multiple times that bad publicity isn't the way to win elections in the future etc. He summed up the conversation nicely by saying "now every pochtet(?) for the honor killing wimbie or someone from his guild". I like how if you talk sense to him he just makes it a personal vendetta even if you haven't done anything to him. Good publicity imho!


posté March 12, 2012, 01:29:09 | #27

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think u mean one of the goverment members. We aggro goverment members too cause they support Wimbie`s helpless way of policy

OH you fibberz~ I have been attacked repeatedly for no reason, just farming minding my own business.
Whats better is your cowardly guild finds it fun to attack players as low as level 12 with their mighty 58+lv characters and not everyone is affiliated with Interferance.


posté March 12, 2012, 08:33:34 | #28
53 lion hearts kills now, man i love killing them  


posté March 12, 2012, 08:59:43 | #29



posté March 12, 2012, 09:10:03 | #30
ROFL

Master, u r awesome


LordCrono, nickname pls  


posté March 12, 2012, 09:46:27 | #31
I choice tyrrans if they can control islands and keep 10% taxes.


posté March 12, 2012, 10:54:06 | #32
Ok, I've now left the Ecologists place for someone else to fill. I was kinda filling it up until we find other player for it. =) Also I wanted to learn new things as one - who wouldn't want to? Learning new things is awesome.

And what comes to LionHeart and the 3 months they ruled in beta, IMO it's not fair that one guild runs the nation all the time and when you get a chance to fill the place, everyone tells you you're noob and shitty nation ruler when you're new in this game and have never even played any MMORPGs, nor have you ran a nation before. In 3 months you get to know a lot of things.

I say there should be a different members from different guilds every two weeks who run the nation, not LionHeart's all alone, all the time, even if they are "perfect" for the government. I wanna be a governor some day, and I want to learn things that you can do and be as a governor without anyone shouting anything that I should do. I'd do things my way, as would anyone else, and I don't - I really don't - need any LionHeart's to be there telling me what to do. I'd hire my advisors when i need ones! And one would never be a member of LionHeart (no offense, but as I know LH, they'd not give me any advice, they'd tell me to do this and that, and if I wouldn't, they'd kill me, so there you go...).


posté March 12, 2012, 11:27:44 | #33
It is most unwise to take up a responsibility when you're not ready for it and don't have sufficient knowledge. The current government is a brilliant example of this simple truth.
They don't know what they're doing and are tinkering with this and that, trying to learn on the go.
That is not in the interest of the nation however you try to put it.


posté March 12, 2012, 11:29:37 | #34
Smart logic, "nation must be poor coz all noobs want 2 try new buttons".

Nice example what wimbie did now - islands not amaknas, taxes up 2 50%, good?


This post has been edited by arr1val - March 12, 2012, 11:30:00.
posté March 12, 2012, 11:53:19 | #35
As for me, i want to run next election. And i already have a few candidates from others pretty strong guilds that will help me with goverment. So, dont worry, goverment will be 'mixed' if I`ll win .
And i`m always glad to make new friends and alliances with good guilds that can respect other players.

So, Wimbie just should just try to negotiate with us, but he decide to make us his enemies, as he said right after his victory.

Dont believe rumors, try to think with ur own head guys.


posté March 12, 2012, 12:15:12 | #36

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It is most unwise to take up a responsibility when you're not ready for it and don't have sufficient knowledge. The current government is a brilliant example of this simple truth.
They don't know what they're doing and are tinkering with this and that, trying to learn on the go.
That is not in the interest of the nation however you try to put it.
Ummm.. How do you think you can learn anything if you can't be in a position to learn those things? You cant expect that everyone knows exactly what to do when they first try something new. Maybe you know and maybe you're the perfect little boy for everything that this game has to offer?

And secondly, how hard it is to be newbie-friendly? It doesn't take much, really. While you can help newbies and make things better, you just waste your time whining how shitty things are.


This post has been edited by Kalapuikko - March 12, 2012, 12:39:53.
posté March 12, 2012, 12:29:03 | #37

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So, Wimbie just should just try to negotiate with us, but he decide to make us his enemies, as he said right after his victory.

Dont believe rumors, try to think with ur own head guys.
Why would he co-operate with you guys when you kill the government members and random people all over the nation? You started killing the government and the guild wimbie is in right after the elections...These are not rumors ,these are facts! I hope people will listen to their hearts in the next elections  


posté March 12, 2012, 12:44:41 | #38

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I hope people will listen to their hearts in the next elections

Exactly, I hope they'll vote for a strong government.

That's why we need Lion Heart for gov.

I'd rather have a strong, tyrannical government that knows how to run a nation, than a weak democracy who doesn't know how to run a government. I mean, when your 1st governor doesn't know that laws cost 500 CP to add or remove and lose his position because of it (and I remember in Beta that they specify that it costs 500 CP when the gov looks at the set of rules given to him), then it doesn't really bode well for your nation.

And coming from a former Gov of Sufokia in beta, I can say that being Gov is overrated really.

Also, NOT giving one of the largest guilds (Lion Heart) in Amakna a gov spot (even though you claim that the current gov is supposed to be for everyone to apply for) is a silly idea.

P.S. Why is Head Guard AND Army General open? Why not allocate those 2 positions for Lion Heart? Boom! You got a strong guild that will happily invade islands for the nation, AND you satisfy the largest guild's position in the current Government party. Kill two tofus with one stone. I see no problem here...


This post has been edited by ManicMansion - March 12, 2012, 12:45:53.
posté March 12, 2012, 12:48:23 | #39

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I choice tyrrans if they can control islands and keep 10% taxes.

Forgot to mention you're one of the said tyrants eh. Maybe a tiny little bit biased?


posté March 12, 2012, 12:56:55 | #40

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Quote (Oberyn-Martell @ 12 March 2012 00:37) *
Get used to it that's how most russians behave in mmos. Nothing new to see here. Just pray they never win elections because you then will see what they can do when they have the ability to do real harm.
i see that u dont know that Lion Heart was in goverment for 3 month in beta and Amakna almost always has all islands and great economy

He is aware of that and so am I. I remember such nice talks in the government chat as: "You are weak Nanners, you should kill people or I will start opposing you. My guys want blood etc etc." Dear Leanny that is your guild and I don't understand why you cannot just openly admit it. You are a bunch of mindless PKers that aggro each and everyone on sight and that have been abusing AP bugs and the like (Yes, people saw that at the Lords Pastures event).

Later then I sat in Bonta government when that twofaced Jannet-Fenix tried to explain to me that our people got killed indiscriminately by Lion heart, because that is Russian mentality and she didn't have the courage to tell you guys to stop.

After release whenever there was a war your guild members gathered in mobs at every zaap possible to spawn camp people till the war was over.

I have been playing other games where the big Russian guilds all behaved exactly the same. I have some theory about the feeling of impotence after the downfall of the Sowjet Union and the motherland being rendered entirely unimportant in world politics. Putin shows the same syndrom by acting like a little kid with access to a gigantic nuclear weapons arsenal.

The only thing that really bothers me about this is that you guys cannot simply admit: "Yes, we are being such jerks on purpose. Deal with it." You always try to come up with some lame excuse instead.