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Ogrest's Chaos Or should I say "Ankama's second best way to torture the playerbase"?

I recently became Governor and fixing machines all around Sufokia is one of the things I want to try to do. Yesterday me and Arathyra fixed the 2 Hook Tables in Steamulating Shore and today Ogrest decided it it was time to start bawling his heart out again, so there go the Hook Tables again.




I am not going to fix this again, and no-one else will either. Why is this even possible to happen?
Do you have any idea how many things are broken and how no-one is going to even try to fix them?

Today morning the count of broken machines was 41.

Let me do the math for you here;

41 x 250 kama
41 x 100 copper
41 x 200 hazel planks (which need 3 hazel wood to craft each)

10250 kama
4100 copper
8200 hazel planks ( =24600 hazel wood)

And this is the current count of broken machines in Sufokia alone.
Who is the person that Ankama expects is going to fix all this?

Are the bugs and the constant destruction of the eco system not enough to torture us?
Did you really need to have Ogrest's Chaos added on that list?

Please, PLEASE for the love of our patience, remove Ogrest's Chaos and reset the broken machines until you come up with a way to make this fun or at least tolerable to the playerbase.

You're only torturing us with this and making the game shitty for us.


This post has been edited by Neuroid - July 22, 2012, 00:44:58.

I will be more happy and pleased to fixed them if those workshop not ask for kama ._.

I agree.

The thing is, while government supposed to fix all those things, they don't possess any major power. They are just players. The government should be able to use tax money for repairing stuff. And the ones that help to collect resources, fixing stuff and helping to get rid off chaos should be awarded by nation itself.

+1

Yup. This is one of the most awful design choices in any game. It was bad enough with one chaos per week, but when Ankama decided that wasn't agonizing enough a few patches ago it has gotten ridiculous.

And really, there is no reason for chaos to even be in the game.

• It's not fun to fight chaos mobs.
• It's even less fun to stomp out chaos plants
• It's not fun to have machines destroyed.
• It's not fun to rebuild machines.

The worst part is that I made a post on suggestions forum ages ago saying it was ridiculous. So someone from Ankama has to have read it, twirled their villain-like moustache and decided that they couldn't give a flying fudge. Afterwards that person probably drank the tears of orphans or something equally egregious.

As Odeen said, you need 250 kamas, 600 hazel wood and 100 copper. That's around 4 hours of work. If everything is repaired it's not uncommon to have 3 machines be destroyed, and that 2 times per week. That's 24 hours of work just to keep everything repaired per week!

What the fu manchu were you thinking?

Now I hear you thinking: "But Arathyra, best ecologist in the world and incredibly attractive individual who is wise beyond her years and also incredibly witty, it's meant to be a group effort and the entire Nation is supposed to help!"

To which the answer would be that people don't give a flying ... funnel cake if things get destroyed. And even if they did the playerbase of Sufokia is so much smaller than that of other nations that the same workload falls on less shoulders. Terrible design.

It's clearly not enough to have to constantly balance an eco system plagued by an uncaring playerbase, eco terrorists and other undesirables.


This post has been edited by Arathyra - July 23, 2012, 05:22:22.

^^+1

I totally agree with you and Odeen. And even if people would care it's not fun to fix it every week. I,, like everybody else,, paid for this game to have fun, not to fix things in game. I would say the same for mining, this is a terrible design too. I'm never lucky with drops like some people are, I always need to mine to get the set I want, and this also makes the game less fun to play because it costs a lot of time sometimes to get a set piece especially when it's a rare set item. I heard from my boyfriend who is used to be a Dofus player that this was not even needed in Dofus, there was no such thing as mining.

I used to love this game really but I've noticed that I play less lately because of a lot of things that are broken in this game, and not to mention all those stupid nerfs and a rollback etc etc.

To go back to this topic, Chaos mobs are really ridicilous, they are too easy to defeat. They're annoying and most of all it's unnecessary. Mostly when Ogrest Chaos comes most people are not even bothered because it's so boring and you are forced to defeat them which is also ridiculous, you can't force players to do something in game. Everything I do in game is my choise, that's why it's called A GAME. It's supposed to be fun and not to force people to do this or that.


This post has been edited by Karakedi - July 23, 2012, 08:18:51.

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Meh that keep gov up to there duties. If you dont want make good job just "cancel" your election and let others do best they can.

And if you go for gov only for shiny gold crown then i dont have other questions about this thread. As i noticed chaos always save one out of three workshops ( in cities ) you can live with it or look in other nations who like to participate to game rules more than some lazybones

Also if you feel forced to play this game, there is simple solution - if you know what i mean



Long live to all Sufokians.

So when you're out of Workshops don't blame them, it's not their duty to take care of Workshops. Last time I checked there wasn't a position for handyman.


So remember, when you are using a WC remember that were they that fixed it  

What a simple answer for a simple mind as you, its obvious you didn't understand a thing what we're telling here.

Btw, I didn't say I'm playing this game cuz I'm forced to play, read carefully first before u reply :S

Duzy have you even been part of the government?
You don't need to be governor to realize the government of your nation has no real power because of the current system which ankama seems to think works.. Brakmarians have also complained about this system because there is no real way of punishing someone for being a dirt bag by, for example destroying the whole eco system the eco worked on so hard for hours, days to fix.
Sure its their job to fix things and so on yet so is it yours, the government wasn't put in place for the reason of making your gaming life fun and easy.. they are also people just trying to enjoy the game, yet they wanted to step up and work on their nation for the better of all the people in the nation. Its true that most players don't give a flying pig so don't attack the government who does care and who's trying their best.
So seriously before you start saying things and attacking the people who are trying to make the best of a broken government system, put yourself in their shoes do it for a mandate or just don't say anything at all.

I've been in the government twice and trust me we have no extra powers, here in bonta we have over 500k in our gov bank that we have nothing to spend on.
If you could spend taxes on repaing workshops it would help but the problem it that it takes ages to collect the other mats.

I've seen a single person collect all the mats required to fix an entire nation befor but it took 2 weeks.

Completely agree with Ara and Neuroid. What was even worse was the bugs which happened when I was gov. Chaos didn't even end.. so goodness knows the damage which occurred there, I had to get Troyle to come and end it.

I'm so glad Duzy made that post. It's good to have wrong player ideologies about this game get summed up like that.

In case Ankama thinks we complain about nothing.

Hey! I actually like the chaos,yes maybe 2 times peer week is a bit to much for low pop nations.

And i couldn't disagree more with you when you say that "there is no reason for chaos to be in game", because chaos created wakfu!! And things are not supose to be fixed by one person but by all nation. If you can't get enough people to help you, then is actually your problem cause you as govs have the tolls to talk to people, you might not have for other stuff yeah i agree ( and ankama already said that they are revamping the system, if you "read" you would know that already) but to talk to people you got it, if people don't follow you then why are you a gov in firts place...

I'm not saying the system is perfect cause it's not. But chaos is a game feature and a logic on if you think about it.... (and adds somthing else to do in game)

microundeas, chaos can be very good, but I don't want to be feel like a gm. No drops, rewards... You get only stasis. What's the point?

Government should be able to hire, let's say one handyman and two harvesters to repair stuff and PAY them. Like the REAL GOVERNMENTS do. We are not smurfs for the God's sake, you can't expect us to be very enthusiastic to do boring stuff for the community without a reward.

And -1 guy, if this is a joke you are not funny. If it's not a joke then it's hillarious.

Like i said the system isn't perfect, and what you get from rebuilding? Duh! Not have to go to other region/nation to do stuff Oo

Soon thread will be moved into suggestion, anyway i prefer rants section. Just trying put my 3 cents. And as someone for who i gave vote you should somehow respect my words, as its voice of your people !


ps. And for this guy who think that only Gov players can discuss here i got bad news, its open for everyone.


ps2. For once and a while i was helping with eco etc but since there was no control over it become pointless enough to dont care so much about it any more. But not as i dont care while plundering eco in other nations


ps3. Its not a joke sir :] 

@ microundeas, Ogrest's Chaos is currently useless, the drops from Ogrest's Cult and the Trools' have no use in professions and equip-wise they suck too much compared to sets, no-one actually uses them.

Yes the politics system will get fixed but it has nothing to do with Ogrest's Chaos.
If there were actual mini bosses with good sets, materials that are useful to professions and actual rewards for defeating the Chaos and reasonable amounts of material to fix the machines (as in materials one person alone can get easily), then I'm pretty sure it would be fine. Until the time that happens though it's better off removed cause it's a bother.

I'm sick of seeing unfinished content and Ogrest's Chaos takes the cake for being the worst in the game.

@ Duzy, what people tried to say is that you don't think of things from the shoes of a Government, as in everyone expects everything from us while it is supposed to be player effort and actually not something we should even worry about and also we are not given more power than any other player to fix anything. Your point is basically Government = slaves.

But really thanks for saying so here, a lot of people think like you do and it shouldn't be ignored.
It's a problem that needs to gets fixed.


This post has been edited by Neuroid - July 23, 2012, 23:32:47.

Would be good to have someone from Ankama comment on this. As in I'd really like a response to this situation.