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Election - Multi Vote per acount I saw some people with some char(s) lv 2 login and logout and the governor populary has change simultaneous, and he did it 4 times... so U win a governor election just because some people have pacient to do 100 CP just to vote in a lv 2, this is awful for me. So vote should be limited in 1 per acount. Well some guys have 2 or more AC, I`m not rich I have one but at same time this way 1 vote per AC would give a balance in elections.

complement once u vote for one nation u cant vote in another one...so lock AC = 1 vote

I'm with you that the abuse of low level characters for vote pushing is a bad thing.

However, I'm not with you in terms of the solution: one vote per account.

The point here is how to determine an active character and not a voter dummy. While the basic idea of CP is not so bad, there are a lot of ways to abuse it (like for example when a prior outgoing Bonta government removed the law that sanctions people when lowering or raising populations cross the limits). Combining it with level is also bad. I know a lot of people with active lower level characters that like to craft and have fun in Wakfu, but e.g. stay away from WG leech parties.

Maybe 1 vote per account per nation. There are people who have active characters in different nations, why shouldn't they vote.

I agree, this issue is a joke and know people who abuse the system and 1 vote per account per nation should be implimented.

1 vote per account/per nation is the ideal.

One vote per IP adress is even better. Let's not forget that multiclients still exist.

Yeah, but on most ISPs, IP addresses are not permanent and change, or even worse, shared between any number of people behind a router using NAT. This doesn't help either.

If amakna wall can memorise your IP and prevent any different IP adress from accessing your account then they can definately apply the same to voting. It would prevent poeple from using the same IP from voting but i think that's better than letting people cheat the votes.

Alternatively it could be 1 vote for any number of accounts that are used by the same person (last name, adress etc) but i doubt that people would bother entering their real name when support is so bad anyway.

The best solution though is to make the wakfu launcher only let you launch one wakfu window, thus banning multiclients which give players a strait up loot advantage compared to single account users and will eventually lead the game economy to hyper inflation and make the player base antisocial, playing solo in a massively multiplayer game. Add one vote per account/nation to that and you got everything fixed and players will be encouraged to interact and play with each other instead of controlling entire teams solo. Two birds with one stone.


This post has been edited by CloudyMind - June 22, 2012, 13:49:05.

errrr ... I got friends who actively play more than a char on same account, trying different classes, having fun like that, and leveling their chars on the account they have... as I have friends who actively play more characters on two accounts ...
So how do you think amkana should make the difference between a dummy alt and an active char?


As for multiclienting, don't cry over it, they're so few people online on this server nowadays, I'm glad that some still sub both (all) their accounts and play them. And amkana will always support multiclienting= more money from same subscriber, so I don't think that will disappear. And if one bothers to pay more subs, ofc s/he is entitled to vote with all the accounts, why shouldn't s/he?  

well..Ankama could go this way.....

you have an Ankama account allready. we need it to play any of their games.
allow players to connect all their multiple accys to one MAIN account at Ankama.
(its a bit like things like .battlenet ect type)

so you have 5 sperate accounts to your play. thats fine. you pay for them, you get them, they are yours (untill such time as Ankama choose to take them away from you)
you link them via your Ankama account (rather than your Wakfu account) and then they know those accounts all belong to you.
you still have to pay for all 5 if you want to use them. but they can verify (via the Aknama main account) that they are your accounts.
you could still have 1 vote per account (5 accounts would mean 5 votes as such) but if you used all 5 accounts to vote for just 1 person and then that person was later accused of padding/payvote then it would at least show up how many multi-accounters had done it. wich would then show how much pf a persentage of the votes for that player were created that way.
if too many were created that way, the election could be given a no-vote and reheld, and players with multiples could only vote on their main account then. if the same player still won without the multiple voters (ie, a supposedly fair vote after the mutli-vote version) then it owuld be considered acceptable then.

could also make players have to be at least lvl 10 to vote on an account (while still having the 10CP needed)
most people who abuse such systems prefer to do the minimum effort to make their vote-mules. but lvl 10 might discourage a small amount

You cant restrict ip for the simple reason people share IP's like me

Just stick to 1 vote 1 nation 1 account, if someone wants to pay for 4 accounts, thats there decisison and would let them vote 4 times cus they pay for the rights to do so.

Plus trying to restrict multi accounts would never be able to be implimented. Its too risky due to the fact in some cases several people use the same Internet and it would cause issues.

thats exactly why a main account with your other accounts attatched is the best system.
plus it would only take into account multi-account voting if anyone cried foul and the system data said that if multi accounts *had not voted* there would have been a different outcome.

then the vote would be redone with the multi-account holders only allowed one vote and resampled.
then if the result was the same (even with multi-accounters restricted to 1 vote as per their Ankama Main account, not the other accounts attatched to it) and the same player won again (snce it would be a fairer revote) then it would count as a full vote and cary on from there.

no one would stop players who pay for more than one account from voting with those accounts (but i do thing the one vote-one account system is fairer.)
it would just occur if a vote was called as multi-accounters were causing unfair advantage. only Ankama would know how many, and who, have multiple accounts.

I was going to say something smart but it's too hot here and my brain is just lagged out right now. I like the ideas so far though :3


This post has been edited by CloudyMind - June 22, 2012, 20:18:00.

I absolutely agree with Ratobr and everything you guys said, just 1 vote per account but not limit 1 account per IP, I know a lot of people who plays with 2 characters, as Epyon said in this kind of situations people would just vote twice, because they payed to do so.
Ankama announced a new Political System, hope they change the currently one to avoid this situations
c'mon Ankama listen to the people

ps: Would be so much better if people use this time and energy they're spend criticizing and guessing stories about alts or any other things with each others if they focus in helping the Nations and the current Governors... but I think I'm dreaming too much....


This post has been edited by -Joker - June 23, 2012, 00:38:33.

One vote per acc per ISP per country or why not per continent or planet or solar system ... behhhh ....
How about my friends who actively play +70 (or +100 !) chars on same account? Surely those are not dummy alts made to vote... why they shouldn't be able to vote with both their chars from same account, if they enjoy playing more classes?