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Are you talking about Sufokia and Amakna eco-laws? All high-exp places are either not under any nation jurisdiction or the same mobs can be found in another nation.

War of nation? no I don't heard =))))))


I don't see any war on any teritory.

Regardless of the status of the nation, I quietly move around on itsterritory (Exception: 5th Avenue  and the use of markets. I have never seen a real war for clan members. All words about nation war is bluff of small school-guys, who imagined themselves the rulers of nation

The main theme of this topic is: "momy why governor of Bonta have a lot of kamas T_T"

Don't cry be BRAVE (desroy Bonta) or use your head (change economic by kama)))))
but I am sure that you are only able to "War on schedule" LOL

p.s.80% players of server don't interesting your agreement. and you re trying to resist the natural managering. Well good luck.(And good luck in the classroom at school, I hope you will gatherknowledge out there)

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I presented my arguments.
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So you have no actual pro arguments for your cause. Your only argument is that you don't like my arguments? Strong cause you are making here, strong cause.



Allright one more time. There are no politics in this game. Only wearing fancy costumes or introducing laws limiting players experiences. So, you had to broaden your government experience by using such laws and thus restricting the rest of the server their fun? That is very selfish

Evolve? How evolve? There is nothing to evolve into...

No NvN either. All you can do is give someone a 3 minute dedarm. That is all there is to PvP right now. You cannot have any wars that have actual goals or meanings.

To sum this up: You want to restrict players from 75% of the real game experience just so you can roleplay a little. That is all you can do. There is no hardcoded mechanics in the game that support any of what you guys are saying. No political power mechanics, no NvN mechanics, no rise in economy or whatever. (The new patch isn't bringing any of this either btw, read the patch logs)

Every single person that comes into this thread and isn't part of your government shuts this idea down. I thought you would reconsider then. Instead you go: "Lalalala I cannot hear you, all is fine and you are just a mean person!"

2Shaleigh - yeah, thats the way people argue in this forums by repeating themselves and blaming others to be mean or trolls.

My 2cc - there are can be war. i'm not offering to do this way though strong nation with united and dedicated players can go to other. kill/remove etc mobs, trees, etc so all clan bonus is at 0. put guarding ppl at mines and market so all who try to enter are killed in place. so the defending people will have to unite or ask other nations for help (although i think they will just quit and make some new chars in other nations). So this could be war. Lots of drama. Dont want it anyway ... yet...

This Shal. Not mine, but subscribed. Anything more you require from me? If not, have a nice weekend.

So from this merry band of goverments jannet loses her post, the brakmar one quits and god knows what happens to sufokia one. Awesome leadership material right here. Show us the way great ones.

2O-M - really? LOLed... Politics are always so funny and serious...

Well, afaik Sufokia's going to keep it. We started, we paused, we may renew it, so still good to discuss. I am still here, in shadow : )

Ok, let us try another angle. Amakna is the second biggest market right now, it is basically as big as Bonta anyway.

So now Brakmar, Sufokia and Amakna go on like always, they just exclude Bonta. When they didn't exclude Bonta it was the focus for the biggest market.

Now guess what happens next?

I wil help you a bit: Amakna will be the only one gaining from this since the former activities shift to the next biggest market. Brakmar and Sufokia are as screwed as always.

You people cannot be all so dense that you are not thinking ahead at least one single little step...

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Also, again here in this thread every single person not in a government has been against your plans. I thought if bnobody liked it you were going to change it. What about it? Instead you just ignore people.

Also, also again: You still didn't have a single pro argument for this idea other than to launch silly roleplay challenges and to raise your "power". Which doesn't exist.

From what I've read in this thread seems some people approve of the ideas discussed here. I for one like some of these ideas too. Though 3vs1 nation isn't that amusing or really logical. But from what I've seen these past few days, the alliances keep changing and i think thats an improvement. The weekend war is kids game. Why not make it that one day for example bonta is at war with amakna, the next day they are neutral or at alliance and some other country is at war. If people really want peace then lets say make 3 days out of the week "peace days"where all the nations are allied. This aspect could also be randomized as to not make the peaceful days be the same days every week. This way people will have time to experience the 100% of the content but will have to be alert to the fact that war can start unanounced. This might influence the players to use their nation market more since other markets might not be available all the time.

Bonta market is the strongest now. At the moment that might not matter. But what will happen when theres more content which might need nation funds? For example some real NvN wars when you need to have funds for i don't know like npc guards or build forts and stuff. who knows what the future of wakfu will bring. But the point is. If Bonta gets the lead here then if such content comes out Bonta will faceroll everyone.

Also from your post I think your opinions are a bit biased, you just state the same thing over and over again. Negativity doesn't really help us improve the gameplay.

P.S. Drop the you got no arguements against me line  

IMO, the main problem of Sufokia (and probably Brakmar) is the lack of people who generate kamas and who willing to spend them. Yeah, there are some but both Bonta and Amakna have much more.

The reason I assume it? Probably just because it is so easy to mine in Sufokia (which usually empty for long time spans) than in Bonta (where you meet other miners almost 24/7).

That's why I doubt they gain anything. In the same time they piss off own people.

If I was a new player without a guild to stick with I'd probably started in Sufokia. But, in the same time, if I wasn't able to travel in other nations (to drop or just buy some gear I couldn't buy in my own nation) without risk, I'd regret this choice.

The Brakmar one does not quits.Yes i have some problems but i am not quiting. You can see my post on Politics for more details.

Thank you very much,
Arachne.

from what i can see (irespective of governments wanting money) alot of the problems are that

players dont want to shop in brakma/sufokia much (problem being they arent using the brakmar/sufokia maps...solution is to alter the darkenss of brakmar and make things more red/brown/gray over black/black and black tones...and give sufookia a makeover to make the maps more aqua/sandy/tan/scrub green color. which will make it easier to play there without eyestrain)

players arent donating so much in their nations (becasue they ether save their kama's or just dont live/work in their home nations)

new players choosing to go bonta/amakna over sufokia/brackmar...(again, problem of maps being horrible to work on in many places. specialy if all the low level stuffs in dicidedly terrible visual conditions) could be solved again by recoloring the maps graphics. could also be fixed by a proper in game explanation of the nations. too often we filthy treehugger farmer of the land types will choose bonta/amakna because of the description and the fact we feel those are the proper places to go to for farming or forestry. it could be that there are a lot more of us Planters in both nations, and the PvP fighter preference players just chose whichever had the sets they wanted more.

we could maybe use a governer written description available up in Incarnum so players can choose with a less biased set of information. (ie, most players would see 'bonta's markets are the best' in the original description and think thats how its supposed to be. it might be that way now but its not the officialy set up way its supposed to be, its just the way its ended up right now)

and a lot of the problem is too many old players (as in high level across the account) that have nothing much to do right now. they are bored and they need more to do. alot of those are PvP fans so the wars a great thing for them.
we need to hope that theres more stuff in the patch next week that may help.
GvG PvP would be good, but its not listed. shame.
but i still say we need a dedicated war island that can be fought over any time by any single or multiple nations. maybe someplace that has a PvP favouring set of gear, so that its not much use to dungeoning but is great for PvP...could be a gauntlet dungeon under the fortress (a group of hard to beat NPC type chars that you need to down instead of just mobs) that can be accessed only by the nation thats ruling the fortress at the time.
that would give a reason to fight for the isle than just the fun.

Can you guys stop this mess untill 2nd may? Make all nations allianced now. Allow us to enjoy those last days of old challanges before they change rewards for good. And about encouraging people to buy in sufokia market.... just speak to people. See markets for yourself and compare prices. Yesterday there was Hairy rat amulet in Amakna market for 110 kama and in Sufokia the same amulet was for 45kama. I've seen prices of Amakna market similar to those in bonta so it only shows that Sufokia got cheaper market. Knowing this people will be going to sufoki markets to see if there are cheaper items for them. Maybe bonta got big market, but sufokia got cheapest one! This information is better then those stupid laws of neutrality or war.

And war still allow players to get materials from nations monsters and plants. Only neutral nations got problem with that. Nautrality is worse then war! If you wanted change then make Neutrality with bonta and all other 3 nations allianced. This way bontarians with high popultion of players will have to buy brakmarians, sufokians or amaknians resources from other nations. It will be better profit then it is now. War is pointless, people usually allow outlaws to use markets - after all they got taxes for that. Do not start war if you dont plan to conquer territories.

OMG couldn't agree more finally some one trying to put sense on this crazy topic  

Yeah, but why govs still don't listening...
It's like talking to ankama - nerf cra nerf cra nerf cra...... Silence.
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Hey guys, let's nerf cra!
Yeah' greate idea.
After that time...

I really hope that the next gove will be people like Kikuihimonji who talking with sense bcs what going on now it's ridiculous and I can't see any changes for good. Only outlaws who agroing with no reason and pointless war with Bonta.

He just put it in friendlier words than I did

Agreed to what you said, Kiku.

I have been selling on all 4 markets before. Now I reduced it to Bonta market only. That is the common effect this will have.

Also, I am not against war (for limited times, like weekend war) either as long as I can harvest some materials or kill some mobs in other countries. That bothers me much more, yeah. If you guys wanna bash eachothers heads in every once in a while then go for it. Every now and then I would even participate

But for heavens sake let us fight all mobs in game and harvest all their ressources in peace.

Cloudy definately needs to be included in this, since bonta are by in large the best nation of Wakfu.(probably stronger than all the other nations combined as well)