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the way to lvl up, quick way to get lvl 100
posté April 25, 2012, 19:49:53 | #1
the way to lvl up so i thought i would share this with everyone seeing that it seems to be so popular and with the new
class coming up it will be the most used thing of all.


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everyone encircled in red is currently wearing the prespic parts and when lvling up equip higher wisdom set items.

now its not just the wisdom items. also all attribute points are being thrown into wisdom, with that new skill reset coming up. (after 2may they probably be placing points on something else)
so people lvl up really really fast.

and note that every party can exist out of 4 leechers and 2 damage dealers without any loss of exp

for brakmar this is the number 1 and only place to lvl up from lvl 1 to lvl 100.

as long as u have a friend/guild that does all the damage
(example 1 lvl 70+ cra/iop will do enough damage to kill them 1shot.

now i dont expect this to change anytime soon. but this just a warning to everyone

with this going on. it will be inevitable that they will make an exp lock sometime soon.

i like to hear your thoughts people.

this was Fancore,
Logging off.


posté April 25, 2012, 21:35:55 | #2
Some players found a solution to this problem:
Change the Wisdom Stats to work like Mechanics or Summon Damage. Only available from itens.
It'll ruin the wisdom+reset abuser.

Now it's up to Ankama to change this. Our part as players is done.


posté April 26, 2012, 00:19:22 | #3

Quote (LeroyoreL @ 25 April 2012 21:35) *
Some players found a solution to this problem:
Change the Wisdom Stats to work like Mechanics or Summon Damage. Only available from itens.
It'll ruin the wisdom+reset abuser.

Now it's up to Ankama to change this. Our part as players is done.

Better system.
Just re-specc every stat except wisdom.


posté April 26, 2012, 03:50:53 | #4

Quote (LeroyoreL @ 25 April 2012 21:35) *
Some players found a solution to this problem:
Change the Wisdom Stats to work like Mechanics or Summon Damage. Only available from itens.
It'll ruin the wisdom+reset abuser.

Now it's up to Ankama to change this. Our part as players is done.
I prefer this method.
You cannot just say you won't reset wisdom. If it's a joke I apologize.


posté April 26, 2012, 09:27:20 | #5
In my opinion there should be reset without reseting wisdom it's the only fair way for people who doesn't put all points into wisdom

or you can reset wisdom 2 months later when people who didn't put all points into wisdom reach the same level as abusers


posté April 26, 2012, 14:58:18 | #7

Quote (skysoccer @ 26 April 2012 03:50) *

Quote (LeroyoreL @ 25 April 2012 21:35) *
Some players found a solution to this problem:
Change the Wisdom Stats to work like Mechanics or Summon Damage. Only available from itens.
It'll ruin the wisdom+reset abuser.

Now it's up to Ankama to change this. Our part as players is done.
I prefer this method.
You cannot just say you won't reset wisdom. If it's a joke I apologize.

Sure you can.
The reset will happen because they changed skills. So builds will differ aswell, because you will need different stats for the new skills.

Wisdom has no impact on any combat ability, neither damage nor survivability. So if you have 10 wisdom pre-balance, it will have the same effect on your abilities as 10 wisdom post-patch.

Therefore, there is no need to reset these points.


posté April 26, 2012, 21:10:05 | #8

Quote (Varonth @ 26 April 2012 14:58) *

Quote (skysoccer @ 26 April 2012 03:50) *

Quote (LeroyoreL @ 25 April 2012 21:35) *
Some players found a solution to this problem:
Change the Wisdom Stats to work like Mechanics or Summon Damage. Only available from itens.
It'll ruin the wisdom+reset abuser.

Now it's up to Ankama to change this. Our part as players is done.
I prefer this method.
You cannot just say you won't reset wisdom. If it's a joke I apologize.

Sure you can.
The reset will happen because they changed skills. So builds will differ aswell, because you will need different stats for the new skills.

Wisdom has no impact on any combat ability, neither damage nor survivability. So if you have 10 wisdom pre-balance, it will have the same effect on your abilities as 10 wisdom post-patch.

Therefore, there is no need to reset these points.
This is why I laugh at those who find the idea not to reset Wisdom stupid.

Whenever a class get nerfed/buffed, the values change. If you are playing an Air Cra, you deserve to get everything from MP, Agility, Dodge, Range, and everything that could affect an Air Cra - Which means anything that ISN'T Wisdom or Kit Skill. I seriously wonder where the arguement for a Wisdom Reset is. I have yet to hear even 1 arguement, good or bad, to why Wisdom should be reset. I can find a ton of reasons why it shouldn't.

Seriously, back in Dofus we didn't even get a charateristics reset when they effectively killed a build. Sure, we got our skill points back, but that was a horrible help when we had spend our points in an element that was no longer worth it. It wasn't even remotely remedied by the dungeon resets, as they were pretty much impossible without heavy multi-clienting or tons of friends, as you couldn't do shit in those dungeons without a proper build. It was only fixed a relatively short while back, when they introduced resets at the class temples. Before then, you pretty much agreed to marry every single point you invested in charactaristics. I don't want that to happen to Wakfu, but think about it. People who expect to get these free resets, deserve to get a massive screw-you. I'm not counting on it, but I'm seriously hoping for it.


posté April 26, 2012, 23:07:00 | #9
Please, add minimum level range cap in group to get rid leechers. Because,

1. New low level players will find it hard to form a leveling group, because old player who create new character will just ask his guildies and leech on them.

2. Leveling will be too easy, and force people to reach end game things without tasting many features in this game.


posté April 27, 2012, 03:20:14 | #10
IMO, wisdom shouldn't be purchasable by point in the first place. I don't know why they let you.
I dislike the idea of pumping wisdom too, you see, it make non wisdom player work harder for more burden.

But no, reset will reset all the stat whatever you hope for, whatever the reason. That's why they call it reset.
You can laugh at me but I never saw any game reset most status but leave one status untouch.


posté April 27, 2012, 15:40:59 | #11
I don't know if you guys can answer this, but the makabra weapon pick 6% of the experience in each fight (needs confirmation). So if I go full wisdom can I level up my weapon faster?

The wisdom stat + reset abuse let you level up your skills better than a non-abuser(after lvl 100, you still earn experience for your skills) and an abuser levels up his makabra weapon faster than a non.

Seriously, Wisdom should be removed from the game because of that.


posté April 27, 2012, 17:59:14 | #12
10% for 1 piece and yes wisdom make it goes faster.


posté April 27, 2012, 18:02:01 | #13
They're removing wisdom from assignable stats next patch. It only took them several years to figure it was a terrible idea.


posté April 27, 2012, 18:20:40 | #14
but still the ppl who did full wis did it right way alrdy having some makas and their skills to 100 and now they get a full reset... meh...


posté April 27, 2012, 18:21:18 | #15
Welcome to ankama.


posté April 27, 2012, 20:02:55 | #16
If You say "Reset everything beside wisdom" or "Wisdom players are cheaters" - i got a news for You - in this game is like real world, some people like to raid Dungeons, some like Gang Outlaws (really hate U guys), some like to plant 'things' and some like to 'destroy' those things, some like to play game 24/7 and some (like me) got family, job, a dog and other things to care about, and play 2-3 hours per day. Some gain levels fast, some gain levels slow, some like doing professions, some like to chat with others. So please do not call 99% of rest players "cheaters", only because You do not do that or You did not make a wisdom character and now You are jealous now. Sorry, but every one can do what they want and put stats as they like. I must agree, that wisdom ruines co-op of the game, but if Ankama decided to reset stats to ALL players, please respect that. If there is a new system (without Wisdom and PP), reset should be to all players, not only for some of them. I could say i do not like vit-sacriers `cause they have huge amount of HP and all vit-sacriers do not deserved to be reset - but saying that I propably would be an ignorant.

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posté April 27, 2012, 20:32:27 | #17
Besides in the long run this will make no difference since wisdom will disappear so new chars will not get effected and the actual ones will be very few compared to the others  


posté April 27, 2012, 20:35:58 | #18
Being able to leech to max level makes this game boring crap.
Can't believe there are still MMO developers out there who think it's a good idea.


Do a lot of work and solo a big mob = get 0 exp.
Stand and leech = get huge amounts of exp.

Seems about right.


This post has been edited by NerdFiction - April 27, 2012, 21:04:12.
posté April 27, 2012, 21:56:25 | #19
About the "don't reset wisdom" idea, the only arguments presented to defend the idea were:
-If one put wisdom b4 patch, no changes in the skills would make a difference in this attribute.
-Me didn1t put skill points in Wisdom, ME RAGE!

About the first one, we can say the same about a lot of attributes, like Vitality, Kit, Dodge, Lock, Perception, prospecting, etc. There is no argument in that.
About the second, guess what? If you put points in wisdom you sacrifice your character with an objective. Same way a full Int Iop sacrificed his flexibility, a full prospecting Enu sacrifice his build possibilities, or a full Vit sacrier sacrificed his damage. How can you say that the Wisdom char has less merit than the others? "CUZ HE UP FASTER THAN ME1". Well, sorry about that, he made a choice supported by Ankama, and that is no less legit than any other build. If they were left behind in a possible reset it would be a total betrayal to the players, as nothing about that was never declared in any way, and they didn't did nothing that wasn't fully supported by the game mechanisms.

But i sure agree with you guys when you say "don't let wisdom be a point-put attribute", and i hope Ankama has really heard us about that, reset all the points, and remove that option.


posté April 28, 2012, 16:21:45 | #20
I have to agree with Samir... The stats IS available to spend the points on.. so.. It's legit!
But sure it may be lame... I've already joined parties at monks where you expect everyone to be at their best and then you notice that your party members SUCK at dmg simply because "I put all on wiz to lvl fast and waiting for the reset! lollzozlozloz!" basically the same as "Level me, ya b****es" xD
So kudos for the great idea of simply removing the the wiz stats to spend our points on.

You'r slow Ankama, but somehow you are getting things done... (after we bash our heads into a wall..)