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Ecaflip gonna get nerf? Click here
This class have alot debuffs and WHEN his skills work - with a decent set, decent weapon, decent ap, decent str - do a normal dmg, i just cant believe it gonna get nerf '-'
Compared to cra or feca fire ecaflip earth its completely unbalanced, your chances with a eca earth, to win a duel vs one feca fire or cra (fire,earth, air) is so low.
Either against one Iop (earth, fire, air) eca have alot problems, and if you heal you are done.
So weird they try to nerf one classe already playable that can kill you in one turn, kill him self in one turn, or just heal the enemy...


This post has been edited by ledes1020 - April 18, 2012, 14:48:09.

1: Compared to Xelor, Cra and Feca all classes do bad damage.
2: Earth Eca is UP, Fire one is Fineish, Water one is so weak...
Why nerf? u_u

Yep, why nerf?
everyone in fr forum is talking about it, and the majority agree with this nerf "

I am waiting for Troyle. Just curious if he can say something about upcomming Eca nerf.
If it is tru ill just reroll Rouge cause Eca imho nowadays is UP nerfing this class will totally kill it.
Earth Eca need luck to do decent damage without it it deals silly hit even on lvl 100 char.

Just lawl'ed when i saw that they will going to nerf UP class.

I read a few posts, then checked if there is any orange posts (dev or manager etc.)

Seems a guy asks if they will nerf the ecaflip or not. Others respond as yes they should or no they shouldn't.

So in my view there is no word of incoming change to ecaflip.

Yes, im waiting for any Dev to say something...
This class cant get nerf will be unplayable...

I only found the post by Tot [Click here] where he says that All In (along with Xelor's temporal burn) will be changed somehow.


This post has been edited by deffun - April 18, 2012, 17:21:12.

That means i must only re roll fire Eca xD if i know how the "change" things.

The main problem is that any lucky Ecaflip can pretty much 1turn anything. I've seen a level 35 Earth Ecaflip 1-turn Royal Gobball through sheer luck. It is ridiculous.

Of course, the tradeoff is a chance to do nothing. And when looking at the average, they are, actually, balanced. And that's the stupidity behind the nerf - They are average in terms of DPT. The problem is that people see a single screenshot of someone dealing thousands of damage, and the next second everyone is calling "NERF THIS CLASS!". It's partly the same issue Xelors is facing, not counting the fact that their base dmg/ap is a bit too high compared to everyone else. People see a single Xelor who have somehow managed to use a full 3 turns to store AP (Something that really shouldn't be possible in PvP) and immediately scream "OP!", when that feat is, in fact, impossible in all but the most optimal situations. The fact that some people use this as a strategy in a 6-man team doesn't make this combo OP, it makes it a viable way of using your teams ressources.

Hopefully they wont go overboard with the nerf, and only adjust it.

Sadly, we all know that wont happen. Ankama's nerfhammer is massive, and thus incapable of making anything but huge changes.

I hope Ankama will change some things in our class ( basically to balance any class, we need to have all the 14 classes in the game first, just then start to change the classes ), but nerf us, I don't think so, it is not every single eca that uses Double or Quits and if you compare the damage of each spell ( with any other class ) you'll realize that we're nerfed, we just can inflict a nice damage with extremely luck ( dice or cards helping ) + 2~3 DoQ.
Don't screw the ecas one more time guys please

FFS Earth ecas are op look at them... even without luck they do so much damage, and if they are actualy lucky they can just 1 hit own everyone.... and fire ecas are so horrible atm... even with luck you do so little damage and they wanna nerf us yay someone said cras are weaker than ecas you kidding me? my friend 100 eca went against a 100 cra and cra killed him in 3 turns.

Hey now, it seems like there has not been any nerf stated explicitly, by a ccm or developer. No use getting all up in anti about what is at best and at present a vague and uncertain possibilty. Hell if anything you wily Ecaflips might be getting a nifty balancing procedure to be more competitive with other damage orientated classes, who knows, if there hasn't been a dev post why jump to conclusions?

Even the post linked to by the op of this thread is just some guy asking if the Ecaflip is going to be changed in the next patch.


This post has been edited by Growmore - April 19, 2012, 06:27:59.

Absolutely nothing has been said about nerfing Fire Ecaflips. The only thing any developer has said about Ecaflips is that they want to change All In. That's it. Not even an explanation of how they're going to change it. (Most likely, just a tweaking of damage, rather than a complete redefinition of the spell concept. Along with All or Nothing, All-In is one of the few Wakfu-only Ecaflip spells that made it through all the versions of the Beta intact, appearing in even their 0.1 spell lists back in 2009, so it's unlikely they'll remove it now)

So there's literally no reason to start worrying that your character is going to be nerfed into uselessness.