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New riiiing! Soo cash shop got a new ring, yay?

20% chance of returning AP when hit at lvl 100.
And it stacks.
Sooo.... Its 40% at lvl 100

So we got 40% from rings.
Xelor passive gives another 20%

So it's 60%.
But ofc you need to be lvl 100 to do this...

What rings we get next?
+Mp ?

So OP this ring for xelors!!
cant believe they are realizing this itens, we cant do nothings, EN just receive hot fix, and change logs from FR so whatever we say here nothing gonna change...
And im sure next ring gonna give 20% dmg all magics at lv 100

I knew someone was going to complain.

No.

This ring sucks.

I thought it was going to give +1 AP.

But nah.

If you're willing to trade Attack, Hp and stuffs for a "Chance to get AP after geting hit by a 6 AP attacks that deals like 300 HP at high lv so you're obviously trading 300 HP + Gears for 1 AP" then be my guest.

I just went and put this ring up for 50 kama while other stuffs go for 90 kama. Hope someone misunderstands what it's suppose to do and just buy it.

Nyeheh~


This post has been edited by Zeitzbach - March 14, 2012, 12:53:12.

it definitely is a very epic ring for xelors.
gogo xelors!

@zeitzbach, "If you're willing to trade Attack, Hp and stuffs for a "Chance to get AP after geting hit by a 6 AP attacks that deals like 300 HP at high lv so you're obviously trading 300 HP + Gears for 1 AP" then be my guest."

you're wrong. for xelors its not trading 300hp +gears for 1 ap.
This ring can return whole AP used(not 1),which is op since it stack with xelor's passive.
ex: xelor use clock spell(which used up 6 ap) but hey! return ap procs,and xelor get 6 ap back,
then he casted another clock spell~~ did the return ap procs again?(ure praying it doesnt!)  


This post has been edited by XbluZeX - March 14, 2012, 16:30:59.

I bought the ring when it was available (It was removed now).

I saw the description and its status.

Tool tip was along the line of : +AP ( Lv / 5 %) (+1)

Notice the +1?

I wore it to check if it really gives +1 AP to base stat or not.

I quickly sold it for 50 kama on the market because it doesn't and it sucks. I quickly got rid of it ASAP while I still can before it becomes unsalable unless the other side is idiotic enough to think the (+1) gives base AP.

It doesn't return all AP used.

IT HAS A CHANCE TO GIVE YOU 1 AP IF YOU GET HIT.

But let's try covering the other prop as well to make check if it even has the chance of being OP or not.

"It has a 20% chance to give you +1 AP at lv 100 if you hit"

Explain how is that anywhere near OP?

Might as well just try to get myself a gelano. That thing is +1 AP by default.

you seriously think a "+1 AP when you get hit" will suddenly boost "Roll back" chance? OH HEY! IF IT DOES, IT PROBABLY BOOSTS BRAINSHOT CHANCE AS WELL! OMG OP CRA AND ECA. But seriously, no.

Heck, might as well get an attack ring. If it really has that "When you hit" prop, you will then be forced to use the lowest cost move and wish the thing keeps giving AP. No more temporal dust/burn for you if you plan to use the ring.

I'm staying with Makareflect and Makaprospect until I can get 2 Gelano if possible.

Nyeheh~


This post has been edited by Zeitzbach - March 14, 2012, 17:15:41.

They're not susposed to be OP.

When they release a +AP cash ring im out.

oh, my bad, i only make an assumption based on what the TS said,which is clearly a diffrent information from what u mentioned here.
if its like what u said,then it sux.

Actually, youre the one who got it wrong.
I mean't same thing what he said, but you didn't understand.
So stop blaming me.
The End.

Does it really stack? how is the bonus AP rolled? It may be 60% total, or 20% chance on hit from passive and 40% from the ring as two separate effects, in the end giving you potentialy 2 AP if you win both rolls.

also they removed the ring from the boutique or what

It's a ring that only gives +20% chance to regain 1 ap when being hit in combat, once it is level 100. There's many rings in the game that.. just give +1ap at much, much lower levels. The real question is: why was the ring even on the boutique to begin with?

What is the name of this ring ? I dont see it in the store !

They took it down, its been said already

oh so its permanantly taken down ?!
What's the name of the ring, i'll search in-game.

Maybe it really sucked for a normal use. But I can imagine some kind of devotion iop: flurry your ally who wears such rings. Doesn't worth it when chance to get AP is 20%, but who knows how it can turn out with much higher percentages.


This post has been edited by deffun - March 15, 2012, 09:30:55.

But... even using average chance at best they're going to restore 1AP, maybe 2 if lucky, at the risk of you doing 100-200 damage a turn to them INSTEAD of the enemy. That's even if the chance hits! Or you could just get a xelor to boost allies AP for free using their class skills, without crippling your team in the process too. Nice idea in theory but when you consider what 'attacking your allies' really involves it's not so great.

Well, of course it's all in theory but with 8 AP it should be +3-4 AP average (if proc is 40). Usually iops can stack up power in one turn up to 60% using flurry (with 6 AP and authority proc being at 45). And flurry isn't a spell you want to level up (to deal more damage).

So you still prefer to use your AP to punch your ally instead of punching/approaching the enemies?

Nyeheh~

Sure, if my ally can use AP much more efficiently than me. If my task is just to be a meat shield for a pure dps. Or if he is someone with big aoe spell and can be positioned in the enemy crowd to make big boom twice.

Not sure if iop is a good example, but in general I see these rings as a potentially abusive way to convert spells with low cost and low damage output to something more awesome.


This post has been edited by deffun - March 15, 2012, 12:49:31.

what about sacriers. it would work nicely for them since they want to get hit often instead of other allies.

The only class that deal low damage all the time and can pull off that kind of trick is Osamodas. Bworkthomp probably has the lowest ratio in the game (6 damage / AP) and has range as well.

But then again, it's better to use the AP for attacking the other side or buffing your summons so the trick is still useless.

And in PVP, the other side WILL OFTEN USE 5-6 AP ATTACKS. It's better to have 220 + base HP (from the other Makaka ring) to stay alive for more than 2-3 turns. What's the point of extra 1-2 AP for that turn if you're already dead?

Nyeheh~