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Dupe Exploit discovered
Short Strich * Member Since 2012-01-10
posté February 20, 2012, 23:41:46 | #1
Dupe Exploit discovered Click here

Why, Ankama? Why!!!!!
About a week before official release!


Squited Arachnee * Member Since 2011-09-12
posté February 21, 2012, 00:38:34 | #2
Er. Your link has the page of the Bug program, point is Ankama won't read this one.

Anyway, it seems to have been reported hundreds of time, so should be fixed by release.


This post has been edited by Lindel - February 21, 2012, 00:43:00.
Reason for edit : I was thinking something else i guess.
posté February 21, 2012, 01:37:17 | #3
what is duplicating ???


posté February 21, 2012, 01:52:15 | #4
I can confirm it's a visual bug. You can't use the duped items at all. You cannot dupe the duped items at all.


To reproduce:
Step 0: Make sure you have spare bag slots, and spare bag space.
Step 1: Move bag from 1 slot to another.
Step 2: Move any item into bag. Item reappears at original location as well, at the original quantity.

Trying to dupe the duped item fails. Trying to use the duped item fails. Relogging corrects the visual glitch.


This post has been edited by Psaakyrn - February 21, 2012, 01:54:33.
Eccentric Moogrr * Member Since 2012-01-05
posté February 21, 2012, 01:53:03 | #5

Quote (Psaakyrn @ 21 February 2012 01:52) *
I can confirm it's a visual bug. You can't use the duped items at all. You cannot dupe the duped items at all.
You can, you are doing something wrong, I just tested it with some scrolls and it DOES work.


posté February 21, 2012, 01:55:42 | #6

Quote (Raeko @ 21 February 2012 01:53) *

Quote (Psaakyrn @ 21 February 2012 01:52) *
I can confirm it's a visual bug. You can't use the duped items at all. You cannot dupe the duped items at all.
You can, you are doing something wrong, I just tested it with some scrolls and it DOES work.
Make sure you aren't using the original scrolls. How many scrolls did you start with, and after relogging in, do you still have your original number of scrolls?

Note that in the video linked form that bug report, the creator FAILED to actually dupe, he used his original 10 scrolls. It's also why he can't dupe 99 at a time (because there was only the 10 original scrolls).


This post has been edited by Psaakyrn - February 21, 2012, 01:59:03.
Eccentric Moogrr * Member Since 2012-01-05
posté February 21, 2012, 01:58:25 | #7

Quote (Psaakyrn @ 21 February 2012 01:55) *

Quote (Raeko @ 21 February 2012 01:53) *

Quote (Psaakyrn @ 21 February 2012 01:52) *
I can confirm it's a visual bug. You can't use the duped items at all. You cannot dupe the duped items at all.
You can, you are doing something wrong, I just tested it with some scrolls and it DOES work.
Make sure you aren't using the original scrolls. How many scrolls did you start with, and after relogging in, do you still have your original number of scrolls?
Just look..
Usually they'd disappear after relogging.

Click here

I also managed to gain 4 levels from this.. and I started with one scroll.


This post has been edited by Raeko - February 21, 2012, 02:00:07.
posté February 21, 2012, 02:01:00 | #8
That doesn't prove anything but a visual glitch, unless they can be used without using the original quantity.

Again, can you use them, relog, and still have the original scroll numbers?


Eccentric Moogrr * Member Since 2012-01-05
posté February 21, 2012, 02:03:00 | #9

Quote (Psaakyrn @ 21 February 2012 02:01) *
That doesn't prove anything but a visual glitch, unless they can be used without using the original quantity.

Again, can you use them, relog, and still have the original scroll numbers?
I can use all of the stacks, when I started with one scroll, relogging keeps them in my inventory.

And btw.

1.Put the item you want to dupe in your haven bag chest.
2.Relog while you're still inside.
3.Take the item out, switch your bags between the 2 slots.
4.Move the item from bag 1 to bag 2.
5.Place the duped items back into the chest and relog.

You can now take them out and there will be 2 actual items.


This post has been edited by Raeko - February 21, 2012, 02:16:00.
Happy Miliboowolf * Member Since 2011-09-24
posté February 21, 2012, 02:54:19 | #10
i have been playing around with it and now i understand it completely! ^^



its really hard to explain...

im calling the bug that lets you make copies of items the illusion bug.
(swap bag slot 2 with (empty) bag 3 or bag 3 with (empty) bag 2 and place item in the bugged bag then the item appears to be duplicated, and it gets buggy here)

this bug was here for ages, i even wrote a report about it a while ago, all it did was give you the illusion that you had more than one item if you dropped the item or used it the illusion would remain but the physical item would dissapear.

then came along the haven bag chest!

the haven bag chest works like a illusion into reality machine!

it can be fooled with illusions, so if you have a stack of 99 scrolls (illusion) and it has at least one real scroll in the stack, it will be accepted as a stack into the chest. however if it does not contain any stack of reality it will not accept the item.

so 1 real scroll > illusion bag swap and duplicate illusions of the scroll > place all scroll illusions on top of the real scroll > then put the stack of illusions and real into chest. the chest records the scrolls as all real. when you take the scrolls out of the chest they are all real, then you can duplicate more

posted it again here cause it gets more views.


posté February 21, 2012, 02:59:20 | #11
Hmm. Basically the haven bag incorrectly reads the false items then. I would note that relogging isn't required to do the dupe.

Then again the haven bag chest is a mismanaged piece of feep which lags most of the time I try to move items around them..

I'm guessing there's a missing error check when items are moved into the bag itself.


This post has been edited by Psaakyrn - February 21, 2012, 03:01:58.
posté February 21, 2012, 13:50:39 | #12
Sigh... Why did you even think it was a good idea posting about it on the official forum - General Forum, that glitch been around for a while now, it's already been reported by many before you, as well as the maker of the video.

It's been kept pretty hidden during the open beta, as if the video itself isn't bad enough, you thought it was smart to post about it in the general forum for everyone to see? What if they can't fix it until launch? This glitch will basically ruin the whole game, people can just make alts, sub them and use them for dup purpose.

Sigh...


This post has been edited by CZone - February 22, 2012, 01:09:50.
posté February 21, 2012, 14:22:04 | #13
As if a hidden few knowing about it and the bug going unfixed is better?

This bug needs to be common knowledge so Ankama will fix it. I don't want to play a game where a select few who know certain exploits can do them in the dark while everyone else is scratching their head.


posté February 21, 2012, 14:52:07 | #14

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As if a hidden few knowing about it and the bug going unfixed is better?

This bug needs to be common knowledge so Ankama will fix it. I don't want to play a game where a select few who know certain exploits can do them in the dark while everyone else is scratching their head.
Are you even reading before you post? Don't make it sound like its a new bug. I already said It's been reported many times before, both in NA & FR forum, theres been a lot of posts about it. Both devs in NA & FR has promised like 2 content patch ago that they acknowledge the glitch and its going to be fixed. But yet they haven't, I'm just hoping for wakfu, that this is gone by launch.

It has nothing to do whether few or many knows about it, the fact that they still haven't fixed it by this stage ( 2 big content patches with a lot bug fixes and not to mention 8-9 days before launch) worries me, and my point was, if this is something they fail to fix by launch, a few player abuse it might not ruin the whole game for everyone, while if 50% of the players abusing it will directly ruin the whole game.

That being said, I rather no one knows about it and really really hope that its gone by launch.


posté February 21, 2012, 16:37:29 | #15
I don't think reporting this here is that bad, given the wipe is a day away... Besides, now that everyone knows abour it Ankama cannot release the game before its fixed. Sure, the last two days are a mess in beta, everyone's maxing characters and skills (and testing with endgame conditions) but there would be no point for Ankama to release wakfu with this exploit available. All the better, there's no chance they will ignore this bug now, if you ask me.


Scary Polter * Member Since 2012-02-09
posté February 21, 2012, 16:59:32 | #16

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a few player abuse it might not ruin the whole game for everyone, while if 50% of the players abusing it will directly ruin the whole game.

I think even few players abusing it may ruin the game. If they get high lvl out of nowhere, they will become "server elite", when they totally didn't deserve it. It's completely unfair for everyone else, because you want to compete in mmo.
I just got 100lvl on all fire spells. I didn't even try to abuse any bugs. I just used few red scrolls, while wearing Agride.

Imo Ankama should just delete these scrolls, no one wanted them.


posté February 21, 2012, 17:13:06 | #17

Quote (krowakot @ 21 February 2012 16:59) *

Quote (CZone @ 21 February 2012 14:52) *
a few player abuse it might not ruin the whole game for everyone, while if 50% of the players abusing it will directly ruin the whole game.

I think even few players abusing it may ruin the game. If they get high lvl out of nowhere, they will become "server elite", when they totally didn't deserve it. It's completely unfair for everyone else, because you want to compete in mmo.
I just got 100lvl on all fire spells. I didn't even try to abuse any bugs. I just used few red scrolls, while wearing Agride.

Imo Ankama should just delete these scrolls, no one wanted them.

But look, if a few players abuses it. they can be banned with ease... if 50% of the playerbase abuses it, not only does it ruin the whole game itself, since everything is player based. But banning 50% of the population... they wont do that.

But I agree delete those scrolls, the spell exp system was broken already, no need to make it even more broken by adding those scrolls.


Tofurby on Diet * Member Since 2012-01-27
posté February 21, 2012, 17:23:18 | #18

Quote (CZone @ 21 February 2012 17:13) *

Quote (krowakot @ 21 February 2012 16:59) *

Quote (CZone @ 21 February 2012 14:52) *
a few player abuse it might not ruin the whole game for everyone, while if 50% of the players abusing it will directly ruin the whole game.

I think even few players abusing it may ruin the game. If they get high lvl out of nowhere, they will become "server elite", when they totally didn't deserve it. It's completely unfair for everyone else, because you want to compete in mmo.
I just got 100lvl on all fire spells. I didn't even try to abuse any bugs. I just used few red scrolls, while wearing Agride.

Imo Ankama should just delete these scrolls, no one wanted them.

But look, if a few players abuses it. they can be banned with ease... if 50% of the playerbase abuses it, not only does it ruin the whole game itself, since everything is player based. But banning 50% of the population... they wont do that.

But I agree delete those scrolls, the spell exp system was broken already, no need to make it even more broken by adding those scrolls.

Yes putting it into the spotlight will totaly ruin the game that will wipe tomorrow...

The more attention it gets the better imo.


posté February 21, 2012, 18:05:49 | #19
Just tested this with some XP 10k scrolls, and yes this works.
I hope they fix this before the release, cause this is an horrible exploit!

Got 200 XP scrolls -.-




The more attention given to this exploit the better. Otherwise you only get people abuse it more cause it won't be noticed.

I Hope they fix this, and the more known this exploit will become, the faster they will catch it and fix it.


This post has been edited by Smallminded - February 21, 2012, 18:07:58.
posté February 21, 2012, 18:58:58 | #20

Quote (Unaknir @ 21 February 2012 17:23) *

Quote (CZone @ 21 February 2012 17:13) *

Quote (krowakot @ 21 February 2012 16:59) *

Quote (CZone @ 21 February 2012 14:52) *
a few player abuse it might not ruin the whole game for everyone, while if 50% of the players abusing it will directly ruin the whole game.

I think even few players abusing it may ruin the game. If they get high lvl out of nowhere, they will become "server elite", when they totally didn't deserve it. It's completely unfair for everyone else, because you want to compete in mmo.
I just got 100lvl on all fire spells. I didn't even try to abuse any bugs. I just used few red scrolls, while wearing Agride.

Imo Ankama should just delete these scrolls, no one wanted them.

But look, if a few players abuses it. they can be banned with ease... if 50% of the playerbase abuses it, not only does it ruin the whole game itself, since everything is player based. But banning 50% of the population... they wont do that.

But I agree delete those scrolls, the spell exp system was broken already, no need to make it even more broken by adding those scrolls.

Yes putting it into the spotlight will totaly ruin the game that will wipe tomorrow...

The more attention it gets the better imo.

Quote (Smallminded @ 21 February 2012 18:05) *
Just tested this with some XP 10k scrolls, and yes this works.
I hope they fix this before the release, cause this is an horrible exploit!

Got 200 XP scrolls -.-




The more attention given to this exploit the better. Otherwise you only get people abuse it more cause it won't be noticed.

I Hope they fix this, and the more known this exploit will become, the faster they will catch it and fix it.
Wow does anyone ever read before just posting saying the same thing over and over? you both seems to think this is something that is really new and no body has reported it before. So here we go again, This isn't a new exploit, its been reported both in NA & FR forum and its been around forever, but its been really quiet about it in the International forums. Both devs from FR & NA has said to the reports that they acknowledge the duplicate glitch like 2 content patchs ago. The fact that people has sumitted the bug, dev's confirming on their bug report that they know about it and will fix it asap and yet have been able to do so, thats what worries me. Not to mention that International forum never get any attention by devs, but this is already a known situation.

@Unaknir, It's getting really tiresome with people who obviously dont read and just post, if you read what I wrote before, I clearly state that what worries me is that if they don't fix this glitch before launch, it will ruin the game. I don't give a **** about OB, because the purpose of OB is to test out these things. So please read what people writes before making comments. It's like all the people who post ''Will there be a wipe?'' over and over again.

@Smallminded Yet again another who apparently can't read... Just because there hasn't been anything about this on the International forum, doesn't mean this glitch is new at all. Been around pre-sram patch that was 5th jan. Also devs on both NA & FR have already said that they know about it, yet after 2 big content patches with a lot bug fixes, they have yet to fix it.

So in the end, for the fifth time, what worries me is that it wont be fixed in 7 days and this will ruin launch. Like I said before, when its just a few, its easy to ban them, but with a huge quantity of players doing so, they can't ban half the playerbase.


This post has been edited by CZone - February 21, 2012, 19:16:17.