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posté February 05, 2012, 11:17:05 | #21
To make improvements into almost anything, someone need to complain. If the whole community would just sit quietly, we would not have any of the problems fixed.

The only problem in the forums is the language people use. You do not have to call people names and use force words to make your word public. There is a thing called "constructive feedback".

And yes, Ankama has failed some parts of Wakfu and I really think that they are doing their best to fix these issues. Four years of development with this amount of bugs, unbalances and problems is just... Well, lets say it is just a failed game development.

OFF TOPIC:
I'v been browsing the forums for some time now and I'm starting to be convinced that Ankama do care about international community. It could be much better, but it is still a start. Because of this, I'm going to subscribe for a year. I really want to see where the game is going to, hopefully towards better times.

Thank you,
- Kossad


This post has been edited by Serpus - February 05, 2012, 11:32:27.
posté February 05, 2012, 12:03:32 | #22
@Higure racism is related to race, and if you are trying to imply that France has only 1 race (as of today), well... you are wrong, since they (sadly) are as flooded with inmigrants as any other european country. If anything the word you are looking for is NATIONALISM.

On topic now. Wakfu only degenerated since 2008 when i got into beta, and well, not only is Ankama a company who does not know shit about game design (thats evident for anyone who has played dofus), but they are now with Square Enix. I already told it, but SE is dead since long time ago (anyone remembers when SE made other games apart from FF titles? Anyone remembers the last good FF?), and now it just stinks, and i trepeat again: SE is the WRONG company to go with if you are doing an MMO. FF11 was mediocre, and FF14 was the blunder of the millenia, seriously i didnt expect any game to fail so hard.


posté February 05, 2012, 12:32:35 | #23
About the nationalism thingy, I guess it was worst back some months ago, when we do have neither a official int podcast, I guess they began to learn from the mistakes, I mean in the community side.

But the gameplay are totally breaked and uninteresting right now, hope there is some kind of revolution 29 february...


posté February 05, 2012, 13:02:17 | #24
Cows go moo, dogs go woof, MMO players go the PVP is unbalanced.


posté February 05, 2012, 14:32:04 | #25

Quote (Ninjazap1 @ 05 February 2012 13:02) *
Cows go moo, dogs go woof, MMO players go the PVP is unbalanced.

Awesome Zero Punctuation quote.

Then again, PvP is only one of the thousand issues. This is not your usual PvP complaints, we're dealing with something major here.


posté February 05, 2012, 16:46:32 | #26
My only annoyance is the lack of mid and end-game content, as in there is none what so ever. And they release these pricing packages with "perks" for those who will blindly follow them without releasing any information on the changes they hopefully will make upon release.

It's so sloppy for a company to have a such a long beta and still have so many glaring mistakes.


posté February 05, 2012, 18:16:25 | #27
my whole point was they are not listening so complaining gets us nothing.


posté February 05, 2012, 19:16:58 | #28

Quote (Venusquake @ 05 February 2012 18:16) *
my whole point was they are not listening so complaining gets us nothing.
I have to agree on this one, even with all complaints about P2P model, bugs, not ready for launch, bla bla bla. They don't even look here, French & NA gets the attention from DEVS, while we don't. For the new people that comes to the forum, seeing these negative feedbacks might get scared of Wakfu. Sure the game is very buggy, its starting to get more and more dofus element etc. But even if they have been 5+ years in development, don't forget that they scrapped 2 versions previous to this. So you can't really say that they worked on this version in 5+ years and still cant get it right.

Lets be honest here, all of you that are on the forums daily, checking out posts. You can't seriously tell me that you don't like the game. Pure bs... If you didn't like the game, then you wouldn't bother come here daily to post and read posts. (If you do, then you must be a very sad person that hasn't anything better to do with your life, no offense)

While I agree that complaints = care, there is a limit to what to complain about. Like they newly introduced pet system, making gremlin one of many pets in the game now. This is one of the things that is useless to complain about, why you ask? Because they've already started taking money for subs and people expect those pets... Do you really think they will change it now? Ofcourse they wont and frankly I don't see where the problem is, gremlin isn't gone, its still there as your first pet, if you like it then use it. I know some people liked the gremlin and the whole skin/gem system, but don't forget there are peoples that dislike it as well.

Sure right now there are things many aren't happy with, but I've been keeping track on NA & French forum, it seems like they've adressed some of the major issues to the devs, so I think that the future of Wakfu will be very bright. Tbh, I actually like that they are implanting a few things from Dofus to Wakfu, I stopped playing Dofus at high lvl because I've pretty much done everything there is to do on Dofus and at that time the grinding was becoming really slow, it was very time consuming and paying for 5 acc's was getting a little expensive. But even if I quit and wont play dofus again, I loved that game, it was very fun the few years I played it. Even if I don't like the str/agi/int/cha system getting implanted into Wakfu, there is a few other things I would actually want to have here such as, Mounts and PvP Wings.

Let's wait and see how well they do at next patch, they've already said they will fix the exp rate/spell exp, many many bugs and the change to the different classes as well as the new content! Can't wait  


This post has been edited by CZone - February 05, 2012, 19:18:35.
posté February 05, 2012, 19:26:58 | #29

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Let's wait and see how well they do at next patch, they've already said they will fix the exp rate/spell exp, many many bugs and the change to the different classes as well as the new content! Can't wait
I actually cannot wait for the Ecaflip, . I am really wondering what they [Ankama] will have done to fix the class.


posté February 05, 2012, 19:40:13 | #30

Quote (agility-PWN @ 05 February 2012 19:26) *

Quote (CZone @ 05 February 2012 19:16) *
Let's wait and see how well they do at next patch, they've already said they will fix the exp rate/spell exp, many many bugs and the change to the different classes as well as the new content! Can't wait
I actually cannot wait for the Ecaflip, . I am really wondering what they [Ankama] will have done to fix the class.

Haha me too mate! I bet there are plenty of people out there that also want to play the new Eca I really hope the next patch is this wednesday!


posté February 08, 2012, 16:57:14 | #31

Quote (Higure @ 05 February 2012 05:01) *
Ankama is a "crap" as a company for 2 reasons:

1- They ONLY hear french people advice... seems xenophobic but it's true, and I'll explain my reasons to say this: From dofus, many many players from the Int community begged for class improvements... for 2 f* years, ankama did nothing... but when a post was made about the EXACT same topic by a fanboy (what spells to nerf, and why), many frenchies replied and the post got "hot". Now, ankama, who only listen to them, got the improvement 2 weeks after. So that's why I hate the company itself, but I do respect the mods, and everyone in the Int/En community. It was not the first time, and will not be the last.

2- This is a post without proof right now, since I'm lazing to search, but years and years ago, 7+, when dofus was starting, a french Dev posted on his blog that Int community was just an "extra fund" and that he could care less for it. The true community lays where the game comes from, France, as he said. This just make me quit, and today I still remember what that racist said. If that kind of people are still working as major devs of the game, then just stop the feedback here, and go to the french forums.


"people need to stop negativity"? No my dear, ANKAMA needs to stop the way they care for players from other communitys... not talking about the support team or mods, but the Devs it self... if this problem get solved and they started to listen, believe me, dofus or wakfu would be years ahead.

Oh by the way, do you know the real reason why dofus is free now? Because game population is decreasing around 8% a year, starting from 2009, and if you think that not much, do the math... not counting with bots.

Dude how can call anyone a xenophobe when you refer to the entire French community as the "frenchies" and then go on to say you only have respect for the Int/En community. Issues such as balance affect the entire playerbase so for you to claim that the French community never raised this issue at all is ridiculous and very narrow-minded of you. Please quote these posts that you constantly refer to otherwise anything you say can only be taken as your subjective opinion.

Oh and stop making up random statistics...just no.


Quote (Anidras @ 05 February 2012 12:03) *
Ankama a company who does not know shit about game design

I don't even..


posté February 08, 2012, 20:03:48 | #32

Quote (felppe @ 08 February 2012 16:57) *

Quote (Higure @ 05 February 2012 05:01) *
Ankama is a "crap" as a company for 2 reasons:

1- They ONLY hear french people advice... seems xenophobic but it's true, and I'll explain my reasons to say this: From dofus, many many players from the Int community begged for class improvements... for 2 f* years, ankama did nothing... but when a post was made about the EXACT same topic by a fanboy (what spells to nerf, and why), many frenchies replied and the post got "hot". Now, ankama, who only listen to them, got the improvement 2 weeks after. So that's why I hate the company itself, but I do respect the mods, and everyone in the Int/En community. It was not the first time, and will not be the last.

2- This is a post without proof right now, since I'm lazing to search, but years and years ago, 7+, when dofus was starting, a french Dev posted on his blog that Int community was just an "extra fund" and that he could care less for it. The true community lays where the game comes from, France, as he said. This just make me quit, and today I still remember what that racist said. If that kind of people are still working as major devs of the game, then just stop the feedback here, and go to the french forums.


"people need to stop negativity"? No my dear, ANKAMA needs to stop the way they care for players from other communitys... not talking about the support team or mods, but the Devs it self... if this problem get solved and they started to listen, believe me, dofus or wakfu would be years ahead.

Oh by the way, do you know the real reason why dofus is free now? Because game population is decreasing around 8% a year, starting from 2009, and if you think that not much, do the math... not counting with bots.

Dude how can call anyone a xenophobe when you refer to the entire French community as the "frenchies" and then go on to say you only have respect for the Int/En community. Issues such as balance affect the entire playerbase so for you to claim that the French community never raised this issue at all is ridiculous and very narrow-minded of you. Please quote these posts that you constantly refer to otherwise anything you say can only be taken as your subjective opinion.

Oh and stop making up random statistics...just no.


Quote (Anidras @ 05 February 2012 12:03) *
Ankama a company who does not know shit about game design

I don't even..

@felppe, L2Read.

You made conclusions that had nothingto do with what Higure said, and yet you did it in a notion of "quoting" where it had nothing to do with quoting. So, again, L2Read


posté February 09, 2012, 17:16:21 | #33
What I said was perfectly acceptable, Higure made claims that Ankama only listened to the opinions of the French community and other accusations citing a specific forum post (which he failed to link). He also quoted an 8% annual reduction in the Dofus playerbase and failed to specify where he got this information from, so you'll have to excuse me if I don't like people making up outlandish claims and false statistic to justify their own opinions.


This post has been edited by felppe - February 09, 2012, 17:18:57.
posté February 09, 2012, 21:07:03 | #34
This game was too good idea to end up without players. I wish to see cities full of people, all streets filled with merchants, people hunting and gathering around dungeons in teams. There is a lot than annoys but for the work that people put in it I won't stop playing - besides I like it. Great exp gap between asturb and first area of Amakna, for example. There's clear disbalance among characters, but it only makes each other different, and each team focused on different strategy. pinions build community, and together draw a cry that may reach high-ups. Let it develop. Let your imagination and people around you do the fun,


About "What if Feca" thread, I feel humilitated, barely being able to face 26lvl Sacrier - while being 20 levels stronger.. Insert sad craface here!


posté February 10, 2012, 01:15:58 | #35
i did google insight on wakfu, dofus, world of warcraft


results were

--------------- World of Warcraft 36
-------- Dofus 16
-Wakfu 1

that can give everyone the idea of how popular wakfu currently is, though this is still beta and it has basically 0 advertising (so many dofus players don't even know about it) and its still rather popular.


these results only show when the word is searched on google, it may be that www.wakfu.com is just so easy to remember nobody searches it? but then dofus has more than half world of warcrafts popularity.

there are going to be multiple reasons the results are what they are, but id just like to put it out there


posté February 13, 2012, 05:16:53 | #36

Quote (felppe @ 09 February 2012 17:16) *
What I said was perfectly acceptable, Higure made claims that Ankama only listened to the opinions of the French community and other accusations citing a specific forum post (which he failed to link). He also quoted an 8% annual reduction in the Dofus playerbase and failed to specify where he got this information from, so you'll have to excuse me if I don't like people making up outlandish claims and false statistic to justify their own opinions.

Check sites that make reviews and game scores about community (google), advs like venus said, and much more...

Plus, 8% are my calculation based on the average players online per week during some years. You can check the graph at dofus website. So stop saying bs and L2Read.


posté February 13, 2012, 10:26:44 | #37
Okay. This has turned into another silly thread trying to cram multiple different, unrelated issues, into a single location... which is slightly counter-productive.

Just going to lock it since that's hardly what the original post was about.



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