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American Forums Vs International Forums This topic will just Be stating some differences between American and the International Forums.

I sent a Spy using a proxy into the american forums and i descovered their system is different in many ways.

Differences

- They get Forum Titles (New Villager, Bellaphone hunter, Tofu tracker, Scaraleaf Ranger, Experienced Villager)

- Their Topics Don't get as much Views or Replies as our forums.

- Their Topics are about things like : Favorite Leveling spots, Will there be a wipe? (They actually got a Dev to confirm that there is going to be a wipe)

- Their Topics Get Viewed by the Developers,

- They have 9 Important Threads , we have only 4, Their important threads Include Player Made Guides (we have them too but they are treated as Normal Threads) and Helpful Links


This post has been edited by Venusquake - January 17, 2012, 01:27:04.

Thanks ^^ , (your much better at keeping the threads in Good Condition in my opinion)

and will we ever get forum titles?


This post has been edited by Venusquake - January 17, 2012, 01:29:42.

No idea, but I certainly hope we never get them. Inb4 "blablabla going against someone's post blablabla lol at your title/post count". Same for the opposite, people giving more attention to someone just because he's old at the forum.

It already happens enough with the join date (which is not even clear, its the forum join date, not account creation, which everyone thinks)


This post has been edited by Yechnagoth - January 15, 2012, 17:23:33.

im just mentioning it because i post an awful lot on the forums and it would be cool if i got some title for it. but your right and its probably better this way.

i mean this account im using for forums now does not even have the Closed Beta mark on it, and on one of my accounts it said Closed beta, Member since September 2011 lol

Yea, I'm against forum-titles. It also encourages people to spam to boost their posts. The titles from competition wins etc are better since they're given out on merit.

People need to have their words judged based on what they actually say on the actual topic, not how much they say it, or what they said on another topic, or who they are. Even Karma systems are kinda bad, since they encourage that whole "personality cult" aspect that comes with up/down voting.


This post has been edited by GoldfishGod - January 15, 2012, 17:56:55.

Maple Story has a nice forum system (well the private server I played on did) where you could give a "thanks" to the person if they replied with helpful advice. So the persons rating is based on how many thanks they recieved.

I agree with Yechnagoth and GFG on this matter. Titles should only be used for special events, contests and such.
A reputation should come from the quality of the comments, not from the number. Those are some of the reasons why i have some respect for Yechnagoth, GFG, Cronqvist and a few other forum commoners (to name the few whose names i can somewhat remember): Not because they have been here for a long time nor because they make a lot of posts, but because when they do post its always a constructive and helpful comment.

This forum already has Like/Dislike system for comments, and IMO thats enough to let someone know if you agree or like their idea or not.

Everyone is agreeing on the same thing, (booring)

Nobody uses the Like/Dislike system (they probably would more if the button was at the bottom of the post where people finish reading but anyway)

i also think its awesome how Lots of people can use their own Unique Forum Icon. (nobody seems to have Copied me yet )


This post has been edited by Venusquake - January 17, 2012, 23:24:01.

we dont need forum titles


This post has been edited by xchokx - January 16, 2012, 02:02:12.

Titles are unnecessary as previously mentioned. They just fluff up people's ego's by giving them status. GFG, Bluze, Grich and Co have my respect and the respect of many others because of the quality of their comments. I always thoroughly enjoy reading something from them because it's a relevant, important and well thought-out piece of writing. They have also been around for a lot longer.

What is it that you want exactly? It's as if your waiting for someone to praise you for all your work that nobody asked you to do. I appreciate the fact that you answer everyone's questions but it's a bit weird logging into general discussion and just seeing "last post by: Venusquake" continuously down the threads. i've never really seen anyone try so hard.

Your posts seem to emphasize quantity over quality.

do not need the forum titles, I want to avatars pic.


This post has been edited by Sneg0vik - January 16, 2012, 15:57:08.

- i just like replying to topics on the forums i don't want anything other than satisfaction of helping people (that is not weird)

- Because Wakfu is currently in Open beta and is going to wipe i decided to go to the forums more often instead of getting a character wiped.

- "They have also been around for a lot longer." (i was here since Closed beta when you needed a key to get in that's long enough to have some experience no?. and we were just talking about this type of prejudice earlier on this topic)

i tend to check all the posts on the forums to check everyone's question has been answered.

(I'm not asking for anything, this whole topic was just started by listing the things different about american forums. that i thought i should share with this forum)

then i simply asked about the forum titles, and everyone seems to be ignoring what im saying,
(i said im against the forum titles)


This post has been edited by Venusquake - January 16, 2012, 18:55:39.

I'm going to be vain, but I've been here since before this forum wiped out the previous official forum, before the very first beta in 2008, and have over 3500 posts (I think that's still the most forum posts on any account, even including the French Wakfu forum). And that's not just sitting around, kicking my heels. Suggestions, unofficial translations, pulling information from the French forums, data from the game client, updating and organising the wiki, actual discussion (and reasoned arguments), class guides, answering FAQ questions, taking English threads to the French forums (translated into French), etc. My output may be lower now, as it has dipped in the past, but it's got a significant enough history that I still get name-dropped.

Those people that get mentioned by name have produced a similar level of input into the community. Sure not all of them have been around for as long as me, or have as many posts... there's nothing wrong with that.

You, as Venusquake (the account, not the person, not the player of Wakfu, etc), have been around on the forum roughly 3 months, with roughly 150 posts. You might build a reputation for yourself in the future, so that people will mention you without you even being in the thread, but I think it's a bit silly to question why you're not mentioned in the handful of "these people are it" type statements. There's plenty of opportunity to make people notice your actions, in the same way others have, but right now there is an equal amount of other people making as much effort, and a small amount who have made an enduring effort on behalf of the community that means they're named, even without an explicit official forum-title.

Even without the forum tracking everyone's activity in raw post-numbers or join-date, people notice those whose input is generally felt to be important. Join dates are a raw number, but if those people are active it means they have far more "words" to float on top of. If you really want to "game the system" you just need to cut down on junk posts about what you're "going to do"... post it once it's done, or when what you have to say is your "best work" (not "I don't know" or whatever).


Nobody contributes to a discussion if it's about "what I've done for you!" rather than doing it. There's no need to question if someone hasn't included you in a "list of people" that you think you should be included in. It's just as arbitrary as a post-count, or a join-date. If you think the forum is telling you you're not "good enough", what does it matter? You're doing what you want on the forum, and in the game... it's supposed to be entertainment, not work.

Frankly, I find it a problem, when forum users just eat up anything people tell them based on that person's "position". It's pointless to treat the Devs, and even the Moderator's personal opinions as if it was the word of god... they know they're human as much as anyone should. When you start extending that same "ego cult" to people based on other criteria you get the same result... people who want to debate find everyone agrees with whatever nonsense they spout, and it gets frustrating for anyone who wants a lively communicative forum.

I don't think there needs to be competition between members any more than there needs to be competition between us and the NA forum... we can just be what we are, and ask for what they get. We can actually use it, just by "visiting".


This post has been edited by GoldfishGod - January 16, 2012, 20:38:05.

I got why Venusquake wasn't mentioned. He's just replying for the replying's sake after all (yes, some of his comments have had actual content too but usually they lack the arguments or are just he being advertising himself all over the place), but why am I not mentioned either!?

i think everyone is Reading too deep into something i said. i did not really mean anything this serious that the whole topic ended up about me being smug or attention seeking, what i said was in (brackets) and it had a Y_Y and smiley. i guess i should be careful what i say in the future.

(i dont think people are even reading my responses to this, and i would appreciate if it could stop.)


This post has been edited by Venusquake - January 17, 2012, 01:13:59.

Sheesh you know you're tired when you read "forum titties" rather than "forum titles" Although Venus is right about a few things, kudos-ometers are not really the way forward.. however being a prolific poster of constructive ideas might earn you a title of teacher in the game world itself and people would actually take stock in your opinion.

Community helping community and all that, after all. A great deal of threads offering constructive criticism against the game itself seems to have been largely ignored by Amakna its up to us all to make it the best experience we can .

^Extracted and not the entire post.
And that GFG, is why I like you so much. You say everything I want to and more in the best and most sophisticated way possible.




Agreed

This whole topic is such an argument, that I dont know what this topic was about in the first place, so thank you for bringing in some comedy.
I just love to have a good laugh after reading a messed up boring argument.