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i really like the way they are heading with wakfu, i played the old beta when it was in french a few years ago, and i actually really liked the Osa system of gaining summons, i felt really proud when i got a Demonic rose xD but i'm not sure i like the new summoning system, even though it is so much easier, just me being picky. Also the spell system isn't as exciting as it used to be, too linear.
But i love the maps and i know wakfu will just continue to get better  

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The MMO genre is hardly sparkling with interesting design in the first place, and the basic "unique" feature of Dofus/Wakfu is their choice to go with SRPG-style combat... the other aspects are quite common in MMOs (if not entirely identical).

If it was just Dofus, coasting on some success, I would probably leave it at that. But Wakfu is effectively an unnecessary "remake" of Dofus (not even Dofus 2.0), while the rest of the MMO genre has moved on, Ankama are trying to compete with their own pre-existing product.


It's quite clear, that they haven't closed the project because they are incapable of that sort of management decision... That's why they remade the game 3 times over. Their whole "cross media" development has Wakfu MMO at it's center. The same sort of management decisions which gave the game it's directionless development.

At some points they actually tried to not be Dofus, and even manage some interesting ideas (now gone). A lot of design decisions are not "hurr money" or "whatever"... they're actual strong ideas, which Ankama clearly think are good, but which are simply flawed and infect the rest of the game by forcing it to accommodate them.


This post has been edited by GoldfishGod - January 29, 2012, 00:10:30.

I post a reply, get many replies

GFG makes his point, and its true.

Wakfu, I admit is a new kind of gameplay that is similar to Dofus but different from others.

But because it's new, it still needs improvement, and I can see it isn't a easy job because after so many
years, Ankama actually makes lots of fix, but most of them create new problems, or failed to solve the problem. Making the game progressing in a slow pace. Even becoming worse recently.

The art of Wakfu is appealing, I guess that's why I can still play it, but I don't need subscription to feel it.

wakfu is a directionless sandbox like game.
the more friends you have, the more fun it gets.

if you spend the majority of your time trying to talk to someone who replies with que?
and that is your only form of interaction with the players.

You won't have any fun at all.

Me ?? I find out Google is useful when I was in French server. So get some friends too, and help me type faster

If you start a new character, doesn't matter what class you pick, just make a new char, and then try to lvl it up to 20 SOLO, it will take forever. I've a lvl 30 air iop, almost 90% of the time I have been soloing, and it wasn't easy or funny to get that level, when the exp system sucks right now. And the same with the spell exp system, I totally agree with you, that they should make low equips easier to loot. I've killed over 400 gobballs (small gobballs to warchief gobballs) and I have looted one just ONE full set.. The hat is almost impossible to loot, check everyone's haven bags and you will see every part of the set expect the hat. And if you see the hat it will probably have a price of atleast 10-20 kamas... That's sick.

But why would you want to level up till lvl20 solo? You supose to play with friends, thats what this game is all about.

Game have been in beta for quiet a while now. It's still not ready.
But let's get real, if thing dosen't start making any cash, it's going to hurt ankama more and more.

For all the people saying "im going to pay just the first month", my advice is: DO NOT.

See, like it or not, today's companies (and as i see you are very aware about how much ankama cares about european forums) only understand one concept: "Vote with your wallet". The only thing that will catch their attention is to lose money. If you want a decent game, you must make this kind of pressure, or you will be ignored. Its sad but true.

On the other hand, you are actually hopeful for ankama to release a decent game in 2 months. Chances aren't it won't, so why give them your money before you know they are going to fix the game? And im sure that there are a lot of people who will keep paying in hopes of a miracle patch, not forever, but certainly a couple more months.
So.
If they dont make a decent wakfu patch this mont, dont even bother subbing. After that first month, if Ankama makes a Wakfu that you like, then pay for it, but never EVER pay to a company if you dont like their product in hopes they will make it better, because its not gonna happen.

Maybe, if they proved that they were listening to us, your hopes would be justified, but until that, make your mind, dont be a fool.

just cause it has some flaws does not completely ruin the game the only reason im not playing now is because there will be a wipe not because the game is bad, its still much better than most crap you can find online

Some flaws? Darling, you really should play so you can see them. Classes are imbalanced and flawed (the first that comes in mind: Enus, which have no synergy at all between branches nor balanced fire and water skill trees), persistant bugs are not fixed yet, and all Sufokia and Brakmar (and Amakna) haven't come up yet. Ecaflip class is being redone, and other two classes are waiting to be implemented.
As thing are now, building a skyscraper out of the middle of the Pacific ocean would take less time than finishing developing this game.

~Greetings


This post has been edited by LouderThanSilence - January 30, 2012, 22:45:22.

Ladies and gentleman, I shoot my eye in to wakfu game folder to find out that the game engine works based on JAVA, and that's the reason 2d game takes abnormal amount of processor power, why it's begin developed so slow and it's laggy by itself! Reason behind all of this is simple fact Ankama used biggest bottle of hell they had!

There's no way it's going to be fixed in 2 months, give them 5 and game will be alright. In 2 month they can add/rebalance classes, but the world itself and stat system will take another 3 or even more.
And after the full release they cannot have a database wipe, so it's going to be even harder for them to insert patches in to the game.

Ok so you didnt understand anything. Ill explain my post to you: its for the people who, in previous pages, said "i dont like how wakfu its now, the last patch made it totally unfunny for me, but i will still pay 1 month to see if they fix it". I gave them the advice that, if they dont like the game NOW, then they shouldnt pay for it until they like it. That's how things work.
If you enjoy the game as it is now, then its fine, pay it...

On the "some flaws" part, might i redirect you to this thread.

EDIT: so, Kerai, what is a good language to develop a game? Really, Java its not a problem for a game without any physics like Wakfu.


This post has been edited by Anidras - January 31, 2012, 14:51:08.

i know what the flaws are lol but they are just so exaggerated on the forums and in theory (its all just digits and pixels on the computer really) its more of a game about players and community / guild chat to me. (the in game scenery looks nice at some parts, no threads about that stuff though)


This post has been edited by Venusquake - January 31, 2012, 18:18:04.

They still have 1 confirmed patch before launch and probably a patch at launch aswell, lets see how they change the game first before deciding whether to sub or not. I've read that they gonna adress some of the major issues, such as exp/spell exp. I've made a thread about news from the other communities, but knonaut merged it with some other dudes thread, scroll down to thrid comment and there's the news: Click here

Sure the games has flaws, but I can still enjoy the game with my friends, once they fixed the exp/spell exp and possibly drop rate that is, you can read about my opinion about the current state of wakfu at page 1, since I made this thread.

Cheers!

this patch is probably tomorrow


This post has been edited by Venusquake - January 31, 2012, 18:44:19.

This game needs beside the obvious balance things a HUGE CONTENT PATCH

i have never seen a a mmorpg with so small amount of things to do beside grinding stuff

sure its fun with all the things you can harvest and plant and so on. but come on you can do like five things with each thing.

i want some proper quests and a bigger world and so on

I agree that there isn't a lot content and it would been nice if they added more content. But this isn't your typical ''WOW-Copy'' that focus leveling on questing, and it wont happen either. I'm personally not a big fan of quest grinding anymore. Since I've played so many MMO's that just grinds quests like WOW. I'm ok with grinding on monsters, as long as its fun and not an endless grind. (see my first post)