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Fire or Water Feca Anyone leveled a Fire or Water Feca ? ive only seen Earth Fecas around.


Tell me your experience please !

I knew 2 water Ecas and they both swapped to earth around 60lvl, because they said, that water Eca sucks.
I know fire Eca. His damage is very average, but I think he's got great potential with Cat Tree.

I don't want to argue with anyone "you noob, water eca is awesome!". I'm just saying, what I saw in game.

@edit Lol fail. Ok, I need some sleep  


This post has been edited by krowakot - March 31, 2012, 00:46:45.

Fire is for attacking, water is for defence and tanking (team stuff in general).

EDIT: krowakot, feca not ecaflip


This post has been edited by Spazturtle - March 30, 2012, 23:46:50.

Currently the water tree is underpowered compared to the earth and fire tree. If you want water or fire, i say go for fire.

I was checking Wakfu Wikia.

Water really looks like a direct DMG buffer for all 4 elements and AP. Might be usefull, but earth looks soo more appealing with Range, Heals, MP, AP, Willpower that i really dont feel like going Water.

Fire by the other hand sound more appelaing and i like unusuall builds, i hope i can make something usefull out of a fire Feca, and maybe later post some guides.

Mirajane Strauss

The thing is the value given by the glyphs are so low its unnoticable. And if you want to do some dmg, you need pacifacton, but the lack of WP and the cost for casting it is really alot.

Really ?

I mean its way easier to get dmg bonus from gear than resist.

So the idea would be maximize Ironclad and use Pacification once and a while ?

Whats the main source of dmg for a Fire Feca ?


This post has been edited by IvanSouza - March 31, 2012, 04:00:17.

Well its not really low, but if you place 4 glyphs around you. Giving you tons of resist and then you will only be left out with 2 wakfu points to attack, Is it worth it? Nope, because by the moment those 2 wakfu points is used up ur going to get raped.

Im not so sure about fire feca, but they damage with their glyphs and use the fecatopheles as their main source of damage. Currently the armor version of that spell is bugged and hits every single mob around you, which is really nice because that damage is ALOT comapred to earth armors(fecammer hits more only if the enemy intends to hit 3-4 hits a round). Of course fire feca also requires higher amount of tactical play because they require to place the glyph in a way so they can trigger the glyphs. Fire feca should also hit more than a earth feca in terms of AoE and nuke damage. The fire feca can also armor their enemy making them get hit when certain conditions is meet.

Another thing is you might want to go peace armor and ironclad as a fire feca because you will nearly always be hit by your own glyphs, and being able to stand in them is really a must. Im not so sure about what stats point they should pick up as i never played as a fire feca until the moment they could glyph wherever they want to, but getting health and int is what i believe they should pick because int gives you fire res to stand in those glyphs and while health make you last longer in the glyph.

One last thing might want to try is to let the enemy surround you and then use fecatrophles as a armor on yourself. If it activates right away, then you got urself a nice mini "iop's wraith" that actually hits more lol. It starts to fall in damage however when you get close to 13-15 plates left.
Skills i would have picked up atleast would be GoA, FM, PA, PP & Ironclad. Why not intimidation aura? Because fecatrophles requires a range of 2 to hit rendering intimidation aura useless. Your nuke will be so high anyways that the resist wont matter that much.
GoA & FM is mandatory on every feca that intends to use shield and glyphs.
PA & Ironclad is obvious on what they should do
PP so your Peace Armor doesnt run out or a way to use Fecatrophles as an AoE without having to run out of plates. Not to mention if you go over 20 plates, you will start to hit MORE when using fecatrohples as an AoE. Keep in mind that evertime you use Peace Armor you lose a WP.

EDIT: A reminder i testest myself: You can indeed change between armors meaning you can go from Peace armor over to fecatrophles. That made me get a great idea, because you could use Peace Armor to stack up plates with PP** and then change over to fecatrohples once you hit 30 plates for some sick damage AoE around you. Initative and lock is your best friend as a fire feca

**=Maxing it gives you 1 plate for 40% chance every time your hit. That is actually 2 plates because the attack doesnt remove a plate from you, retaining the plate that was supposed to be gone AND adds another plate. That 40% chance is really high and feels more like 80% than 40%.


This post has been edited by IcySushi - March 31, 2012, 11:17:34.

Amazing answer, thank you very much.

I have the log to analize your answer. But ive tested several Glyphs soo far (im still loe on my feca, around 20)

What i felt like soo far, is that the randomness of the Glyphs (Meteorite Shower and Fecastopheles) wont really fit on a grp fight. (well, at least none will be able to stay around me).

Natural Attack Glyph is really good one, but the cost is too high for the dmg.

Flaming Carpet Glyph sometimes get me blind (doesn't mater much, because i usually stay surrounded by glyphs).

Also using Feca Hammer (earth) sometimes, because some rounds i end up with 1 AP 2 MP.




Wait, didnt get that, the PP is 40% of REGAIN an armor lost by a hit, its not supposed to give you more Plates....and how does the changing armor works ? can you explain this part again ?



EDIT: Using Fecastopheles armor on yourself is amazing


This post has been edited by IvanSouza - March 31, 2012, 19:36:06.

Lvl 77 Fire Feca here.
Im pretty tired atm so i wont cover everything:
Fecastopheles armor awesome on melee-allies.
All Fire-glyphs deal minor to none damage. SOmething's pretty bugged there.
Fecastopheles-Attack hits super-hard.
Peacearmor is in deed very good.
YOur melee and Ranged attacks suck compared to any other class/to Fecastopheles.
Fecastopheles Glyph is the only1 thats worth using cause of the -MP.
Any armors on enemies are a waste of WP.
I lvled Crashing wave and defensive orb as well, jsut to have something, when the nerfbat hits feca again.
(Ap-Armor and Ap-Glyph)
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Some stats:
Fecastopheles hits for 350 front, 400 side, 500 back; Crits for over 9000
Vulcan (2.d best spell) hits for 180 to 250...
Fecastopheles-Armor deals around 300 dmg
Fecastopheles-Glyph deals 70 to 1 dmg, depending entirely on the enemies Fireresistance ( I hit myself for less than 10, got around 120% fireresist)
Peacearmor+PP too stronk.

The build suggested is fine but the strategy suggested isn't so good imo.
It's true that you can switch from peace armor to fecastofeles but if u do it you'll take all the damages peace armor reduced and if you wait to stuck 30 plates you'll probably die doing this.
About the plate stacking i don't think that you will be reliably able to get 30 plate, PP gives you a possibility to regain a plate if it trigger this means that if you have 20 plates and it triggers you'll have 21, but you still loose a plate per turn so you need to be very lucky to have 30 plates.

I suggest to follow the build but to play it in a slightly different way: use fecastofeles armor until it reaches about 15 plates and then change it into peace armor and start to use fire glyphes, i don't know if fire glyphes damage triggers plate prtection tough...
one last thing i'd choose spell rebound over ironclad, you have already the 60% of dmges reduced and ironlad will be a little redundant while spell rebound other than protecting you will make damages and save a plate too, add to this that with peace armor you'll be very resistant so you'll take a lot of attacks increasing the possibility to rebound, in the end game even a single rebound can change the course of the entire fight.


This post has been edited by stoicPunch - April 02, 2012, 01:36:53.

Thank you for all the answer, i will def level up a Fire Feca.

I like to play not popular Specs/classes. Will try it xD

You should follow stoicPunch's guidelines becasue my theory experience lies in earth feca and not fire. My wall-o-text was simply made through a brainstorm of 10 minutes afterall xD.

But nonetheless i appreciate the effort and the sincerity !

Thank you

Mirajane Strauss