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Gamebreaking volcano armor bug Today i was told of a "trick" by a fellow feca concerning the volcano armor.

the trick :

Step 1 : put volcano armor on enemy.
Step 2 : get hit by it.
Result : it has now lost all Movement AND action points for as many turns as the armor has plates.
Step 3 : move away from it and laugh since it cant do a thing.

100% reproducable. it doesnt bug out sometimes it ALWAYS works.

Sorry but this is ridiculously gamebreaking , i dont see why it wouldnt work on a player. If someone here doesnt see how removing all AP/MP from a player/enemy for upto 13 turns (if you dont hit it) isnt gamebreaking then dear god you sir are blind.


What surpises me is the confidence of that feca player that this is not a bug but a feature.

Skill description of volcano :

..., cast on Armor, deals damage based on the remaining AP/MP of the wearer when the wearer ends their turn.

There is no mention of the volcano armor actively removing AP/MP . THIS IS NOT WORKING AS INTENDED.

I am ranting yes but i really cant believe how there is not a single mention of this on this forum. Are you people unable to play without it so much you cant bear to see it fixed?

Just tested on players and the result is the same.


EDIT: after some more testing i figured out some more details as to how it works.

the damage mechanic of the volcano armor debuff works correctly , the problem is that for evry AP/MP left it damages for, it also removes those AP/MP for its entire duration.

to illustrate , here is how i tested it.
-I started a sparring match with a friend of mine (he has 6AP/3MP) i put the volcano armor on him.
-I ask him to use a 4AP spell and move 1 square, he has 2 AP/2MP left and takes damage accordingly.
-Next turn he starts with 4AP/1MP = he lost as much AP/MP as he had left at the end of his turn.
-I ask him not to move nor cast any spells , he has 2AP/2MP left and takes damage accordingly.
-Next turn he starts with 0AP/0MP

very simply put , you lose as much AP/MP as you have left at the end of your turn.

so in PvP , if you ever get locked by a feca = you will lose all your MP , you are officially screwed.


This post has been edited by Unaknir - February 05, 2012, 11:52:26.

Hey Unak, I'm not a feca player, but this kind of bug you should report to Ankama, in the forum won't help so much, but you did a good job, we're here to test and found bugs in-game  

It's not a bug...

Are you retard? Can you read what he just said? It does damage according to the AP/MP remaining... plus fire armors don't remove AP nor MP... some water armors do, but not that powerfull.

Thats exactly what i meant , the feca player that told me about the bug argued that the dev's themselves said it was not a bug but a feature...

It scares me how these players are convinced its working as intended and that they arent exploiting a bug on a gigantic and in pvp totally unfair way.

Filed a ticket , waiting for an answer.

Tried that with my feca. YES that is a BUG.

Enemy shall not lose any ap/mp at all via this spell. Spell shall only check the remaining ap/mp and damage.

As it seems enemy don't lose the Ap/mp, it only don't regenerate at start of turns.

hmmm oh my...im a multi element feca: focus on fire bending

about volcano amor bug ??? i guess it can be consider maybe yes or maybe no,

Reason:

it suddenly SEAL the enemy, people always think it bug, because it didnt state in skill info. how about crushing water ?? it can be cast twice if aim on activated glyph...it also consider bug ( also didnt stated on skill info ) ???

if tht volcano consider as bug, Volcano ~ deal damage as remaining AP/MP. people complain it !!
we still got another skill which also powerful as Volcano (currently), Defensive Orbs, will deal damage when LOSING AP/MP...so how about it ???

it a nice skill actually, alot counter style can be applied if u fighting with feca ( not considering this V-amor as bug)...it need to be sooo close to cast it...and it expensive skill too...

i fire bending, still i didnt always use those V-amor, because alot mob always hit and run...and it only work for single mob summore...

for me it a great feca skill, and i love it ^^ i not consider it as bug

you not consider it bug , you go watch more avatar yes.

sorry how can you not consider it a bug? great skill? its overpowered and can shut down anybody.
Counterplay? are you serious , if an enemy has it on him and you lock him for 1 measly turn his MP doesnt regenerate for upto 13 turns!!!

Are you seriously comparing defensive orb and volcano armor? REALLY?

As far as i know , defensive or armor only deals damage when an enemy removes MP or AP , its incredibly situational . how are you even comparing?
once again my confidence that common sense is actually common got another blow.



yes te spell itself doesnt "remove" the AP/MP but it has the same result.

if you lock the target and prevent him from using MP , he loses all MP for upto 13 turns. meaning if the enemy is a melee class you can move away when his Mp = 0. he wont be able to use AP resulting in a bugged state where AP and MP are stuck at 0.

hmmm if look more detail...this V-amor more likely eating AP/MP for next turn in dealing damage. for me this skill not overpowered. because it not 100% will happen for the rest of 13 turn....i tried alot man..seriously...

it nothing related to avatar..since i just use the "bending" term...

you might say, this skill overpowered...for me it normal...our damage low comparing to other ...our damage comparable with healer class...SEAL method...how about lock-totem sadida build ?? tht also make enemy useless till the end of game...tht also overpowered ??...

if dev wanted to changed this skill so-called "bug"...it ok for me...just in-return giv feca better buff ^^ n make feca more suit to "protector" title ^^

The skill is overpowered. A feca itself may be weak, but if it has another class in team PvP, then the opponent is F'd as the Feca doesn't need to deal much damage, as it has another class with it that does more!

Of course, you wouldn't consider something a bug if it was helping you - You want to keep the bug, so it keeps helping you, so you exploit it. Anything you say as to saying it isn't a bug can just be turned right back on to you, so don't try and argue that it isn't a bug by saying the Feca needs it cause it's weak - The Feca is meant to be weak solo, just like an Enirisipa.

Honestly its simply doing far more then its intended to do.

Not working as intended = bug

it aint rocket science.

Did you not look at what you just typed? You just said it's doing more than it was intended to do, therefore it is not working as it is meant to. Don't contradict yourself.

seriusly...i didnt care V-amor much...because i always use other skill..crushing wave + fire...volcano need to be so close...i playing range style

if dev change it..i still ok ^^ peace no war