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Air Sram Destroyed., Come here, and vote for us!
* Member Since 2011-09-12
posté July 25, 2012, 18:03:24 | #1
Air Sram Destroyed. I wrote this topic because I want to talk to you all.
I ask anyone reading this topic to add a reply, even one ''UP'' , to get noticed by Ankama!
I want, Ankama will read this topic, and I want to change the mind of Ankama.
I want them review the powerful nerf they have in mind to do.

Ankama please, review Invisibility Nerf , across all, please.

I hope that my idea is fueled by other users, I want Ankama will see many others are in favor of my idea.


* Member Since 2011-04-05
posté July 25, 2012, 18:13:42 | #2
1) This is in the wrong section
2) They won't change something they have finalized. Trust me. The enutrof forum brought out some amazingly thought out changes to improve the enutrofs escape ability ( we have zero pushback spells and zero escape spells) and none of them were even taken into account. We currently have two support and one main spell which aren't even used. Trust me, they will carry on as they please, its sad but true. They are likely to figure out the problems AFTER the update is installed, you are better off kicking up a fuss then.

Invisibility was overpowered and the changes have discouraged its spam, it was completely necessary.


* Member Since 2011-09-12
posté July 25, 2012, 18:22:25 | #3
if you knew sram, you would know well that the invisibility is the only key to being competitive.
We can't use invisibility if they will do that nerf. would be a waste.


* Member Since 2011-04-27
posté July 25, 2012, 19:02:51 | #4
Dude if you already did a PvP with your sram, you know that the current Invisibility is OP, almost all classes can't reveal you guys, just using area spells and try to guess the right place and some summons of Osamodas with really high perception, so yes Invisibility really needs a nerf, being in this state for the whole fight while you and your Double are attacking is not fair for the other classes or at least Ankama should put again spells like Perception ( Ecas used to reveals invisibility enemies ) to balance the PvP or give the right nerf that deserves and Ankama did the last option.


This post has been edited by -Joker - July 25, 2012, 19:06:36.
* Member Since 2011-10-25
posté July 25, 2012, 20:12:29 | #5
PANIC PANIC PANIC THEY KILLED MY OP CHAR!!1


Gosh, i love nerfs cause i love to read threads like this
First of all its not even a patch note. So enjoy ur sram while u have time before patch, hah ^^
And second - take it easy, sram was SO FUKKEN OP when it gets release in beta, with no hiding it was super high dmg and can kill every char in 1vs1 or even 3vs1. After that it becomes really shit, after shit it becomes powerfull again (air branch, yeah) and FINALLY it will get balance, no op, no shit, just balance.

Take it easy bro, there always was changes for each classes and every time ppl discovered new builds and tricks.

Peace  


* Member Since 2012-03-30
posté July 25, 2012, 21:37:48 | #6
current invisibility is not only OP and annoying to fight against.

New sram could still be OP.
U have more dmg so u can go invisibile, hit hard then escape again.

Or if u are fighting cra u can easily close in whereas no one else can't. Then deal high damage with ur new skills.


* Member Since 2011-09-12
posté July 26, 2012, 00:56:00 | #7
@All You do not understand, sram to become strong must buff Shadowy Cloak, because a lot of point and equipment go to level up Ini, Dodge and Perception, then +1 AP from stat.
(Sram have 90 base dmg with 7 AP, VERY LOW DMG!)
Are u kidding me? if the perception loses is tripled, we can stay invisible for max 3 round! and in 3 round shadowy cloak will be near lvl (30-40).

And now, do u know that a lot of classes have nice AoE spells? With AoE spll it's very easy find sram.

I will leave the game, if they don't change their idea.


* Member Since 2011-01-30
posté July 26, 2012, 04:24:19 | #8
Byebye crybaby XD


* Member Since 2011-10-25
posté July 26, 2012, 04:51:35 | #9

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(Sram have 90 base dmg with 7 AP, VERY LOW DMG!)
we can stay invisible for max 3 round!

I dont even want to try and prove smth to you. I just notice that (its only my notice) that you just cant play sram. Ur lvl isnt high first of all, i lvled you once on WG in Amakna (i think it was u, Old Kahijii or smthlike that nickname) and your strategy is not good enought for playing sram, thats why i quickly left.
But not only u 'cant', i didnt see that 100-105 lvl srams panic, no, only middle lvl.


I told already, if u cant use char's OP it doesnt mean that its not OP. Pr0 srams can kill every char, they just need to be lil lucky.

Lets face it, you just cant use sram's OP, its ok.

And AS I SAID IF U CANT FUKKEN READ: its not a patchnote.

Try to guess why there is a few words everytime in every 'rebalansing' post: "
Here again, let us know what you think
"

Peace again


This post has been edited by leannia - July 26, 2012, 04:53:26.
* Member Since 2011-09-12
posté July 26, 2012, 08:20:12 | #10
I don't want to be as other sram that spamming double they won.
My build is a Ninja Air Sram, i can go where i want when i want, my build is Inv, Scram (not all sram use that), Master stabber, Sram to the bone, and Sram Reflex!
I have a lot of dodge to dodge everyone, and a lot of ini to start the match for first.
I'm not a noob sram, just Ninja. I want to be different from other.
I cry for that, my build now is destroyed, even build with double.
And,


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(Sram have 90 base dmg with 7 AP, VERY LOW DMG!) we can stay invisible for max 3 round!

That is thinking after this fix, not now. I'm not so noob to stand invisible for only 3 turn.
Bye, I'm reassuring a few for your ''it's not a patchnote''.

Thanks.


* Member Since 2012-03-05
posté July 26, 2012, 08:21:23 | #11

Quote (leannia @ 26 July 2012 04:51) *

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(Sram have 90 base dmg with 7 AP, VERY LOW DMG!)
we can stay invisible for max 3 round!

I dont even want to try and prove smth to you. I just notice that (its only my notice) that you just cant play sram. Ur lvl isnt high first of all, i lvled you once on WG in Amakna (i think it was u, Old Kahijii or smthlike that nickname) and your strategy is not good enought for playing sram, thats why i quickly left.
But not only u 'cant', i didnt see that 100-105 lvl srams panic, no, only middle lvl.


I told already, if u cant use char's OP it doesnt mean that its not OP. Pr0 srams can kill every char, they just need to be lil lucky.

Lets face it, you just cant use sram's OP, its ok.

And AS I SAID IF U CANT FUKKEN READ: its not a patchnote.

Try to guess why there is a few words everytime in every 'rebalansing' post: "
Here again, let us know what you think
"

Peace again
make sense, if you see shik post panic post, then shit just got real XD


Quote (GJTora @ 26 July 2012 00:56) *
I will leave the game, if they don't change their idea.
its your lost good luck in your life out there  


* Member Since 2011-10-25
posté July 26, 2012, 09:20:21 | #12

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make sense, if you see shik post panic post, then shit just got real XD
lol u got it


* Member Since 2012-02-09
posté July 26, 2012, 09:40:14 | #13
I like Sram's changes. For me that class was more based on luck than Eca. Guess where the Sram is with AoE and win or not guess and die.
You should also realize, that they can't leave Sram untouched after they nerfed all the other strong pvp classes. I think, Sram still will be very strong in pvp, if you know, what you're doing.


This post has been edited by krowakot - July 26, 2012, 09:44:30.
* Member Since 2012-01-11
posté July 26, 2012, 09:45:43 | #14

Quote (GJTora @ 25 July 2012 18:22) *
if you knew sram, you would know well that the invisibility is the only key to being competitive.
We can't use invisibility if they will do that nerf. would be a waste.
well...i so not agree with tht statement

1st: i didnt use Invisible at all ~ still i can being competitive
2nd: i saw plenty of sram didnt use invisible yet it so powerful
3rd: from what u telling u spend point for dodge...it nice but for my opinion it abit waste...Air Spell got nice map control ~ Fear n Tricky Blow to get away from monster ~ Combo = Force Blowx2, Fear or Force Blow x1, Tricky Blow...alot style man
Crap ~ lvl 95 Air Sram ~ he didnt have problem regarding "running" or "dodge"
4nd: Scram - alot people use it man...i never found any high lvl sram didnt have it

Invisible = OP

For Better Survival ~ u Invi = dmg abit lowered
For dmg - visible ~ since u said u got alot Ini...u start 1st...kill it 1st man

Best Regard
Tikam Belakang
Lvl 97 ~ PP Build Noob Sram


* Member Since 2011-09-12
posté July 26, 2012, 10:15:30 | #15
mmh crap, .. i need to change my build, and i love my build, i 'm like a ninja, i go everywhere. Dodge for me is very important, i can dodge every tipe of mob or player, with 95% dodge everytime.
And air equipment is very low (Not Black Crow set, but the others....) , how can i do damage if i can't boost shadowy cloak? how can i do decent damage if i don't want to use double? :/ I think double must be nerfed, and invisibility a little, but not so hard.
do you know -20 perception at start of each turn and -6 perception for each AP used, -2 for each MP?
20+42+10(5mp used)= 72 perception lost in 1 turn. They are kidding us.
And Damage halved, i don't know why :S We will do 90 base damage with 7 AP, then is 45 base damage! AND IF WE DON'T USE GUILE!!
I hope Ankama review that.


This post has been edited by GJTora - July 26, 2012, 10:16:28.
* Member Since 2012-02-09
posté July 26, 2012, 12:01:36 | #16

Quote (GJTora @ 26 July 2012 10:15) *
how can i do decent damage if i don't want to use double? :/
How can I be strong fire Iop, if I don't want to use Wrath? If you don't use full potential of your class, then obviously you will be weaker.

I also don't understand, how 45 base dmg with 7ap is weak, when your oponent has ZERO base damage, because he can't see you.


This post has been edited by krowakot - July 26, 2012, 12:03:46.
* Member Since 2011-09-12
posté July 26, 2012, 12:23:42 | #17
Yop is OP in all three trees. U can cry of that.
However, a lot of time our invisibility fail because a lot of class have AoE Spell (Yop 's Wrath for Iop, Explosive arrow for Cra, etc etc.) It's not so easy stay invisible. Try sram, and next tell me it s easy .


* Member Since 2012-03-11
posté July 26, 2012, 13:13:36 | #18
bal·ance [bal-uhns] noun, verb,bal·anced, bal·anc·ing. noun
a state of equilibrium or equipoise; equal distribution ofweight, amount, etc.

Now I've got that out the way I will further explain myself. Rather than spending your time complaining how your own class has been ruined take a step back and see the bigger picture. Several "Over Powered" classes have had "nerfs" introduced including the Iop's " Iops Wrath" spell. So I cant understand how your last post holds any weight nor substance. However your original post leads me to believe you feel your class has been persecuted in some way. I implore you to go and read the full changes announced by Ankama and not just your own classes, as alot of changes have been rolled out. As it clearly states " balancing week " means that many classes will endure good and bad changes as Ankama try to make all classes some what equal. The equilibrium of all classes will forever be a mystery to us as we are players of the game not the creators. If the creators feel certain classes are more powerful than they foresaw they inevitably would "nerf" them as well as "buff" those deemed under powered.

Dusteh's tips on staying ahead of persecution of your class and spells!

~If alot of people are using a particular class because it seems better than its counterparts, then it more than likely is! So steer clear of using this class it will be PERSECUTED!
~If you find nearly everyone using the same class veers towards one build and spell, then that spell is more than likely to good to be true! So steer clear of only using this spell it will be PERSECUTED!

However! If you choose to use a "Over Powered" class, please do not write up posts here when you are PERSECUTED!

~Dusteh


This post has been edited by xDuSt - July 26, 2012, 13:20:03.
Moderator * Member Since 2012-04-25
posté July 26, 2012, 13:30:47 | #19
Hi, in the future please post in the correct section.

Also, regarding the topic, Sram would certainly need this nerf. Ever hear of a process called power creep?

I can guarantee people would be more upset if Sram were left untouched.


* Member Since 2012-05-29
posté July 26, 2012, 14:32:16 | #20
hahah! dont know why you complain so much. changes, balancing are essential in every MMO. as others have said, try to level and practice more your sram. you will discover new tricks. if high level air sram would complain then we have an argument, but i dont see shik here. which by the way doesnt use invi at PVP at all.


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