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Fire sram end game strat I know srams aren't "good" right now, but just in case there's any fire srams still left, I's like to hear thoughts on an end game build.

8 ap , max double, max stab, max diversion, max scram, CB/FB/Exe lv 100

Turn 1:
Use diversion, run up, FB (+10h) (+5stab), double, swindle, pass
Double: CB x 2 (+10h), diversion (total 25 stacks), end turn

turn 2: If double is alive: scram if needed, diversion if needed, CB x 2 (+10h) (+10 stab)
If double is dead: scram if needed, diversion if needed, CB x 1 (+5h) (+5 stab), double
Double: diversion (45/35 stacks), CB x 2 (55/45 stacks), end turn

Turn 3: diversion, execution (55/45 % bonus + 40% backside + 5% stab = 190/200% hit not applying stats)

Let's tally it up from turn 1, without applying any bonuses: 35 + 70 + 9~ + 70/35 + 70 + 17~ + 80 = 351/316. If we add in execution bonus and let's say you only had 50% bonus from stats/equips, and your opponent had 0% resist, it would be around 646 dmg. Now apply the bonus of the cold bloods you landed (not double), and the first blood... 40% each, plus 5% stab. with minimal stats, it's pushing 750 dmg, or 250 per turn. If your opponent has low fire resist, i can't see why you couldn't push 900 damage in 3 turns. With a lucky crit or two, make that 1k.

interesting.. certainly interesting.. but that's all theory in a real fight you might not start first or get to attack every turn, or even survive 3 turns. so go invis srams!

Temptation, don't advice ppl to make a shitty build. Thank you.

pfft direct your advice of putting all points in their stat leveling 1 spell and spamming it along with double for most dpt for pvm is better eh?

Fire sram.....

9ap 5mp

Pvm only :

Dive , Fblood, push ; double . End turn main char

Enemy facing backward - > cold blood , execution End turn double.

Repeat circle above,

Letz make fire sram good ah topic creator, not so many but we ll show them how strong fire tree can be,

'd love to meet with u ingame (hope ur havent change class)

Ign Lega.



Maxed skills :

Diversion stabber double invi shadow master


This post has been edited by 1234565594 - March 31, 2012, 23:50:21.

good joke lega, good joke.

mind ur own business.

well I don't want you going around expressing your opinion to others, injecting bad thoughts in other players brains! IT IS MY BUSINESS, for I am the white sram!
also fire srams suck get over it

... are Air Srams so great that you're actually butting into topics just to tell people not to try other builds? (My experience with them was... disappointing and short-lived)

Why do you get to express your opinions when nobody else does?

because I'm a white sram, I thought I was clear about that? also have you actually read his post? a monkey can write a better strategy for fire srams, a MONKEY. also why do you butt in topics I'm butting into ? doesn't that make you kindof hypocritical?

Well, I was reading this topic for Fire Sram ideas, since my Air Sram was an utter disaster of uselessness.

And if it's so easy to write a better strategy for Fire Srams, then why not write one?

Really, yelling "I AM THE WHITE SRAM" over and over as if that meant anything other than gibberish doesn't make you more right.

Edited to add: especially since you don't look like a White Sram to me, you look like a Default Iop.


This post has been edited by Schmendrick - April 01, 2012, 03:34:59.

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This post has been edited by 1234565594 - April 05, 2012, 07:53:01.

if your air sram was a disaster that doesn't mean the build isn't the best in the sram tree, it only means you are not suited for it, play an iop.

as for the rest of you, mad?

white sram out.

i think we play base on our preferred playstyle, not because a certain class deals more damage with this type of element.

ps: youre lame

So those are the only options in the game to you, Air Sram and Iop?

And, really, repeating "IT'S THE BEST" doesn't actually tell me anything. I see how it's supposed to work (go Invisible, strike from behind to build Shadowy Cloak damage bonuses), but it never worked that way for me (specifically, Invisibility doesn't seem to work for any appreciable length of time), so I focused on Water instead.

I think I see the idea behind Fire Srams (bleeding opponents to death, with attacks that get stronger as the opponents get weaker), so I wanted to see how experienced Fire Sram players use the class (especially at "endgame"). That's why I looked at this topic. Not just to read "Play Air Srams or Iops! No other classes or builds exist!"

P.S., if you're so proud of your Sram, maybe you should change your forum avatar so that it's not a Iop, especially since you seem to use "Iop" as an insult.


This post has been edited by Schmendrick - April 02, 2012, 13:56:09.

you need to level invisibility and have some points in sram to the bone/perception if you want invisibility to last long enough to make use out of it, so you judged an entire build the sram class was made to use because you gave up on it too quickly, and are you seriously defending the moron? did you read his strat? first blood and double then repeat? what? I think you people are quiet upset I am so rude you are forgetting how moronic the build is, if you want any sram to work you would have to build it around invisibility like it or not, it's the only perk out of the class, using a fire sram with no invisibility going 9 ap and dealing more damage sure, do that, you might out damage some classes and win some fights vs. players who are equally retarded, it's not effecient in team fights though, because the double will die and when you're out of WP you have no more double, who's going to execute for you? you have no defense mechanism since you are too moronic to use invisibility, so yeah you are pretty much there just to deal most dpt, you won't do as much as an iop, but you are playing like an iop, you are a shitty iop, go play an iop. k thx white sram out.


PS: I've tried rolling a shadow master sram, the shadow master doesn't stack with double, I am not sure if bug or not, but double is the most important spell imo for a sram.


This post has been edited by AKAawesome - April 25, 2012, 13:54:01.

 

Pretty sure it's not a bug. None of your passive abilities is inherited by the double. I am having no trouble fighting PvM without my double.

much faster with 100% more damage, and in PVP goodfuckingluck  

I just thought up of 11ap strats..... but kind of low hp with this build and needs forceful blow leveled high enuf as well not for dmg but for stas + dmg done from behind, tbh need to rethink this but yeah just gonna put it.

11ap 4mp

1st turn div , x1 first blood, _x1 forceful blow, summon double.

end turn

enemy facing backward, cold blood, execution , push


2nd turn main :

div , x2 forceful blow , summon double,

end turn .

double turn : cold blood execution, push.


repeat the cycle untill enemy got less than 20% hp

-either main or double's turn : div, x2 bled dry, f.blood.


not that easy since main's hp and elemental dmg quite low but yeah with build up hermohage , forceful blow at times and 2x bled dry at 20% hp might do well enuf ....

'd love to hear every1 else's other strats and thoughst for fire sram and even meet in game to just hang out and learn from each other,

Lega.


This post has been edited by 1234565594 - April 05, 2012, 07:53:52.