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Shadow Master - Air It is Shadow Master (sram specialities) usless in air build? I read about air skills, they got always 100% chance to be in invisibility after attack behind/sides?

Yeah Shadow Master is for other elements like FIRE and WATER.

It's useful if you want to attack from the front I guess XD

So if i do misstake and i put 3 points in Shadow Master when ima air... will be chance to reset it in future?

Edit: There is no description in Trauma skill that you stay in invisible state, i tested it and you always stay invsible when you use it, i tought shadow master can be useful by this skill but its not right?


This post has been edited by Vesperis - March 03, 2012, 12:41:40.

Sure seems that way.

umm, close combat?...(weapon that is) so it's not useless .. at all......

I guess, but 40% is as good as 0%. You can't expect to stay invisible.

I agree, right now I'm a lv 40 air sram and even as an Air Sram I feel that Invisibility is a gimmick. On first look people are like "Oh look you can go invisible".

My reasons for saying say this are:
1) You lose invisibility way too easily. Even with high perception you will lose invisibility if you get locked or attacked by any source of damage even if it's friendly fire. In PvE you will always have to disengage after attacking in melee because the monster will put attacking the block you were on in order to detect you a very high priority.
2) To make Invisibility a viable option you must invest a lot of status into perception and dodge then you need to invest skill points into invisibility, sram to the bone, shadow master. In order to do this you must be high levels also.

All of this just to be invisible? Not worth it IMO. In PvP a player can take a guess with an AoE skill and detect you right away after going into invisibility. Also remember that when you put points into these status to get invisibility you lose out on HP/Damage and other stats.


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And while we are on this topic I might as well add that perception is the most useless stat never. If it isn't for invisibility this stat wouldn't exist. My guild mates don't even care about perception because they go "Fear sram? lul yeah right". Why don't they just change invisibility to a set amount of turn and make perception a more useful stat for every class.


This post has been edited by DrKerlim - March 05, 2012, 12:44:12.

dodge doesn't matter, he will always have 5% chance to lock you, you can't let him to do that! so use spells that push him or you

So have any idea how Shadow Master (support passive) can we use in Air build?

You do not need Shadow Master for an Air Build.

You need Shadow Master if you want to improve Trauma and you want to try to stay invisible after using it.

So on an Air Build Shadow Master is only for trying to stay invisibile with Trauma.


This post has been edited by Nukio - March 18, 2012, 22:15:14.

Trauma also consumes Shadow Cloaking based on its description. This skill will remove your invisibility state so this skill is not something you should abuse always.

it removes shadowcloak level, but I usually stay invisible

I always lose invisible when I use trauma, because I have 0 point on Shadow Master.

But I always stay invibile with the others air spells. So Shadow Master in air build is only for use trauma for try to stay inv

on my air sram I have 0 points in shadowmaster too, but if I hit with trauma backstab/sidehit I usually stay invisible unless target dies. I think sometimes I lose the invisibility but mostly I stay invisible

There is one scenario where Shadow Master would be useful to an Air Sram, and that's when using a Bow.

It's common knowledge that Srams are a close-combat class. Most people will start spamming AoE spells around their immediate area when they're hit by an invisible Sram because the Sram's MP range can only take them so far away from the target. With so many classes having so many low-cost AoE spells, you're bound to be caught sooner or later, and your Invisibility will be worthless.

On the other hand, imagine using a Bow.

With Shadow Master, you can now attack the enemy from behind, from range, and still stay invisible. If they're not expecting it, they'll naturally assume you're attacking in close-combat, and frantically search the area around them while you sit safely at a distance.

While you're at range, your Double can move in and do the risky close-combat work - and you can simply cast another one when he gets caught. It's a lot less hassle than getting revealed yourself and having to spend 2WP just to cast Invisibility again, right?

Is this worth 20 points in Shadow Master for an Air Sram? I'm not sure. I might try it out myself and see how it goes, but it's just something to think about before you label the entire speciality useless - everything has their uses, one way or the other.

nightingale if you bother to actually read the replies I've already mentioned using a weapon with shadowmaster keeps you invisible, and stop telling srams to use bows I don't want everyone to do that then it's not cool anymore!

Nightingale? Who is Nightingale? I have no idea who/what you're talking about, Temptation.



Dammit.

But on a serious note, I merely wanted to emphasise that Shadow Master isn't completely useless and that using weapons benefits from it. You did mention you could use a close-combat weapon with it, but most people might just disregard that point because there's no real point in using a close-combat weapon over our skills (as of yet. Right?). I'm just pointing out that people can be pretty creative with the tools they've got - and I'd like to see people coming up with their own unique examples of Sram Gameplay, so I can steal them for myself.  


This post has been edited by Blitziii - March 23, 2012, 05:10:32.

all creative people need to know is you can use it with closecombat(weapon) and they will keep the ideas flowing