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Which Osa build is "The Best"?
posté November 25, 2011, 22:54:47 | #1
Which Osa build is "The Best"? Hey. I'm complete noob regarding Dofus and Wakfu.

Which Osamodas build is right now (or in FR Wakfu) considered the best? The one who levels fastest and deals the most damage in both PvP and PvE? (Which spells to skill?)

Thx


posté November 25, 2011, 23:48:48 | #2
Depends on your concept of best, strongest and fastest.

The Air Osa is the Osamoda which focuses on transforming to give its skills bonuses. It's probably the best Osa for PvP due to the varied uses of its skills, with focus on Crobak, which gives a very good percentage of critical failures.
I can imagine an Air Osa can really do a big number if they get one extra AP and high crit rate from leveling and leveling the gobball. That would increase the Crobak's crit failure rate even more.
For you to have an Idea, a Crobak's Crit Failure rate on lvl 50 is 10%, which can be a real tideturner in both PvP and PvE matches.
Basically, this build trades a high damage output for usefulness. Just because it's the build that deals the least damage, it's far, far from being useless.

The Fire Osa focuses on AoE attacks which can buff the summons by transfering your own stats if they're hit. That means this build is good for people that want to focus on their summons. It's also the most summon dependant build. It also deals more damage than Air.
This build is basically for people that like depending on their summons, but that doesn't mean you'll just sit out letting it do all the dirty work; you can attack too!

Finally the Earth Osa, which fights alongside the summon too, but in a different fashion. Your Earth skills change the summon's AI, making it more agressive or a dodger, also increasing it's stats without you needing to lose yours, like the Fire one does. It's solemn attacks (fighting without a summon) also have the highest damage when compared to Air or Fire, but they also have the highest cost.
This build is for people who like fighting with their summons, but either totally focusing on them, or not focusing at all. It should also be stated that of all builds, if you focus on this one's agressiveness, it's probably the one where the summon has a higher chance to die.

There are other ways to interpretate the builds, such as using Air to fight in the backlines making use of the no-LoS while your summon tanks, but I told you "the ones who level fastest and deal the most damage" in my point of view.

If anybody else has other suggestions for this fellow, or perhaps a correction to my statements, please do post them here.


posté November 26, 2011, 00:19:06 | #3
Thank you for that mate.
What build would you suggest to me, a guy that has extremely little experience with this game. I already hate how slowly you level in this game, so I would like the best spec for leveling possible.

Thank you.


posté November 26, 2011, 00:33:18 | #4
I would say Air is pretty nice. Sure it isn't the highest damage output you will deal, but that doesn't mean you won't be killing monsters. It's also good for parties, which is something I highly stimulate for a beginner, even if the experience isn't so good, you will make some friends and learn a few tips and tricks.
You also seemed interested about PvP so it affected my decision.


posté November 26, 2011, 00:57:31 | #5
Well, I want high damage with survivability for leveling. I know when I played Wakfu before, I always had trouble at lv 15+. I had extreme trouble killing Gobold Warchiefs. And when I did, it only gave me 10%. Wakfu is a complete grind + the fights were hard. I tried many classes, it all got grindy and boring 15-20+. Saddida was the funnest but the hardest with weak damage.
I'm assuming Osamodas are one of the best class to solo with, because of the summons. I guess not the fastest, but at least you can easily beat higher level monsters by yourself.
Regarding joining the party. I only meet non English speaking people or complete children who I do not enjoy playing with. No offense. Please. I'm a complete noob.

Thanks


posté November 26, 2011, 01:23:09 | #6
No offense taken. As a brazilian I do know very well how most of my kind is ingame. Not to mention others from other nations, I heard they aren't very nice too.

Perhaps you should try looking for english speaking guilds in their forums? There were plenty last time I checked.


posté November 26, 2011, 01:36:33 | #7
Well if you ever want to play with a complete noob like me, do tell me. I'm fun to play with, discussing other aspects of life while grinding

Also, what would be the best nation to go to? (English speaking)

Thx


posté November 26, 2011, 03:13:18 | #8
There isn't really any best nation.
I myself have always played in only one so I can't say exactly which is the best for english speakers.


This post has been edited by Linnah - November 26, 2011, 04:20:09.
posté November 26, 2011, 03:57:42 | #9
As I see, what you want is good damage and summons, same as I do, so I went for the fire element because fire spells have good damage and can help your summons, but the problem that I had was "Which special spells should I level?".
-I started calculating it and I came up with this:
Gobgob: A must, because you'll need in each element.
Animal Blessing: A must, because you need leadership and lock.
Gobup: Optional, it's a good spell but the problem is that you will need points for better spells.
Animal Guard: Pass, would be a good spell if your a summon Osa.
Possession: Pass, you won't use it as long as you can do damage with fire.
Prespic Hair: Pass, same as Animal Guard, mostly for summon Osa.
Gobball Steak: Optional, A good spell to level up your Gobgob and helpful if you use Symbiosa.
Animal Link: Pass, your summon would hardly die if you know how to play.
Symbiosa: A must, it gives you extra AP and MP and can be helpful for Fire Osa.
Phoenix Spirit: Pass, same as Animal Link, your summon would hardly die if you know how to play.
Remember that I'm only talking about the fire Osa, and this is my opinion so there are many ways to build up a good build.
-But when it comes to the build it depends, you might need to go full Vitality, or go for +AP then Vitality, or +MP then Vitality.
Full Vitality is more like helping your pet more than damage.
+AP then Vitality is more damage using, so with Symbiosa (+1AP~+2AP) and the +1AP let you have 8AP~9AP which lets you make more spells.
+MP then Vitality is more for an Osa who likes to stay far from enemy and keep summon tanking.
Still this is what I say you don't have to stick with it.
I Hope that I've help you with some stuff, though I'm still learning more about Osas in Wakfu.

{Not A Good Choice For Beginners} 


This post has been edited by Jel1o - November 26, 2011, 04:29:23.
posté November 26, 2011, 04:14:24 | #10
I find your choice of skills intriguing.

Why leveling symbiosa for a fire build? Every single fire skill focuses on the summon, which means you have to have them in play.
If you use symbiosa and transform into the dragon, you cannot have any summons in play, leaving fire skills with a huge gap. They turn into mere damage dealing skills, which are honestly not very useful when you can have a summon in play to deal extra damage.

Giving up summoning in order to gain 2 AP/MP and some crit/dodge/lock/ini isn't much worth it, unless you're talking about lategame; levels 45+ where the current strongest summons can't do much. Not to mention that if you are going to focus on going dragon, you won't be needing to level Animal Blessing. AB and Symbiosa are clashing skills; one focuses on summoning and the other doesn't.

If you are, I say it's rather harsh of you to be giving our beginner friend here such a complex and long term build to follow.


This post has been edited by Linnah - November 26, 2011, 04:15:53.
posté November 26, 2011, 04:24:45 | #11
Yeah, at first I did think about it being hybrid and random, but as I said I'm still learning the new Osa.
I Re-Thinked about it for a beginner so I would say Fire with Gobgob and Animal Blessing and Gobup would be a good one, and going Full Vitality.
Sorry, I didn't think about it for a beginner, though that Symbiosa is better for Air element same as the Steak, which is for more damage.
And the earth element is same as fire but it's up to him.


posté November 26, 2011, 04:38:12 | #12
Well now I'm just confused :S


posté November 26, 2011, 04:56:34 | #13
Sorry, I didn't mean to confuse you. :[
I've given you a hybrid build by wrong, what I recommend for you as a beginner is to go with Linnah's advice, try the Air element that would be good for you. :]


posté November 26, 2011, 14:27:07 | #14
So after some thinking, fire build (or earth) would be the best. I'd like to be dependent on my summons, because that seems the best way to go for PvE. (+ dragon form and it's skills seem boring)

What spell do I skill first (and the most)? Which Specialities do I skill? (For fire)

What spell do I skill first (and the most)? Which Specialities do I skill? (For air)

Thank you a lot


posté November 26, 2011, 15:46:14 | #15
Apaprently Gobbit and Gobbal Steak worth maxing an any way you go. The rest is the choice between a summoner and a dragon paths.

Also I wander will I have enough points to make a hybrid of dragon and summoner. (in one cases it is better to summon and in another - turn into the dragon)


posté November 26, 2011, 17:31:19 | #16

Quote (Mironov @ 26 November 2011 15:46) *
Apaprently Gobbit and Gobbal Steak worth maxing an any way you go. The rest is the choice between a summoner and a dragon paths.

Also I wander will I have enough points to make a hybrid of dragon and summoner. (in one cases it is better to summon and in another - turn into the dragon)
Gobball steak seems like it's just going to be obsolete eventually. When you can get 40+ summons, you can just have the Gobgob eat that and instantly be that level.


posté November 27, 2011, 02:07:57 | #17
Ive gone earth Osa and i got to say its pretty amazing and its been the fastest so far lvling wise

I leveled Gobgob, Animal Blessing and Animal Guard And plan on going into Gobbal steak as it
will act as another summon when my level cap on the Creatures is reached


This post has been edited by undyingwrath - November 27, 2011, 02:11:29.
Reason for edit : addition of info + spelling errors
posté November 27, 2011, 02:34:53 | #18

Quote (Klemzo @ 26 November 2011 14:27) *
What spell do I skill first (and the most)? Which Specialities do I skill? (For fire)
I'm building up a fire Osa, I went like this:
On Special Spells:
-At First Make Gobgob level 5 and Animal Blessing level 10, that will let you have 3 places in the gobgob and 3 leadership so you can summon.
but remember you can summon your summons out, if their level are equal or lower than yours, which means (Your Level > Your Summons level in the battle), in another way, if your level is 15 and you have a gobball(lvl 10) and white gobbly(lvl 5) in the gobgob, you can summon 1 gobbal and 1 white gobbly.
and then because you have 3 leadership you can summon the gobgob after you summon them.
-Then level up Gobbal Steak to level 6 so you can level your gobgob by using 1 WP for each steak.
-After leveling the spells like that you go back to leveling the Gobgob until you max it, then when you max the gobgob, max Gobball Steak so your gobgob can be stronger.
Remember that your Gobgob can eat your summon to level him up (your summons won't die), and when the gobgob is in a high level he hits realy good!
On the Characteristics:
Either you go +1AP then Full Vitality
Or just go Full Vitality.


This post has been edited by Jel1o - November 27, 2011, 02:39:36.
posté November 27, 2011, 11:11:15 | #19

Quote (agility-PWN @ 26 November 2011 17:31) *

Quote (Mironov @ 26 November 2011 15:46) *
Apaprently Gobbit and Gobbal Steak worth maxing an any way you go. The rest is the choice between a summoner and a dragon paths.

Also I wander will I have enough points to make a hybrid of dragon and summoner. (in one cases it is better to summon and in another - turn into the dragon)
Gobball steak seems like it's just going to be obsolete eventually. When you can get 40+ summons, you can just have the Gobgob eat that and instantly be that level.
But the last gobgob skill requires a lvl 200, so I reckon it won't become obsolete until around the max lvl 200.


posté November 27, 2011, 19:32:29 | #20

Quote (Jel1o @ 27 November 2011 02:34) *

Quote (Klemzo @ 26 November 2011 14:27) *
What spell do I skill first (and the most)? Which Specialities do I skill? (For fire)
I'm building up a fire Osa, I went like this:
On Special Spells:
-At First Make Gobgob level 5 and Animal Blessing level 10, that will let you have 3 places in the gobgob and 3 leadership so you can summon.
but remember you can summon your summons out, if their level are equal or lower than yours, which means (Your Level > Your Summons level in the battle), in another way, if your level is 15 and you have a gobball(lvl 10) and white gobbly(lvl 5) in the gobgob, you can summon 1 gobbal and 1 white gobbly.
and then because you have 3 leadership you can summon the gobgob after you summon them.
-Then level up Gobbal Steak to level 6 so you can level your gobgob by using 1 WP for each steak.
-After leveling the spells like that you go back to leveling the Gobgob until you max it, then when you max the gobgob, max Gobball Steak so your gobgob can be stronger.
Remember that your Gobgob can eat your summon to level him up (your summons won't die), and when the gobgob is in a high level he hits realy good!
On the Characteristics:
Either you go +1AP then Full Vitality
Or just go Full Vitality.
What spell do I use as the damage spell? I've been using Magpie now, seems the best. Or should I focus on buffing my pet with Boohowl or something like that?

Thx