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Resumed: kill things or plant stuff. Maybe visit a dungeon and get killed.
That's what you will be doing for day one into infinity. No, there are no goals nor any remarkable progression or change from start to end, what you get in the first 30 minutes is what you will be doing for the next 100 hours.

The trend answer will always be "because BETA!" at this point. So truly, don't bother asking. It leads nowhere, really. Never does.Just wait until the game's released and they haven't fixed most things. Although then it'll be "because just released!", and after that likely "because it's been only a year since release!" and then it switches to "It took WoW X amount of years to be X amount of good!". Happens to most games and their respective forums.


This post has been edited by DamianVM - December 04, 2011, 02:56:42.

I was actually refering to FFXI. The more it updates, the more it deteriorates. (Kind of like Dofus, as mentioned above.)


As for P2P, I am not against it myself. I just want them to make the game WORTH the fee before making it P2P. Paying for "We promise this game will eventually become good! At some point. Maybe. With luck and some more time, anyways. Possibly." would be... well, not-intelligent. Add to that Ankama generally slows down as all hell if they don't see money incoming, regardless of the reasons. So the major withdrawal of players when P2P comes around is bound to be a decisive point, where either they understand how they are walking down the FFXI path ("We lose players! Quickly, add more pointless stuff that amount to nothing!") or they actually try and add something that lures players into the game. At this point the only reason to play this over Dofus is the idea of being annoyed with Dofus' loading screens or being a grindtryhard player. Not to say it's something strictly bad, but it IS something sad. Wasted potential, so much wasted potential.

@Hydroxyl~ Actually, multyclienting happens just as well in P2P areas of Dofus in most servers. It just takes more patience to build, but I stumble upon autogenerated Cra armies quite often in Solar per example. Which is a shame, yeah, you'd figure that would prevent it. Granted they are fewer than in the F2P areas, though... Those are just a big no-no.


This post has been edited by DamianVM - December 03, 2011, 15:18:41.

Yet now everything can pretty much solo everything and most of the game content has no purpose or usefulness. Sadly when a game starts correctly in execution, it suddenly takes an U turn and crashes against the nearest wall avaible.

Here's to hoping they start to actually apply at least half of those "main tasks" at some point in the game.

So your ideal of making a game group based is make a focused share of classes be able to solo pretty much as they please and make the rest have to whore for help or slug their way around? That doesn't increase people's willingness to group, it increases the number of people that use the classes that need no grouping. Specially when the factor that matters the most in the game is dealing higher damage (currently, hopefully at some point they make everything else as viable.)
The roles currently matter not so long there are enough damage dealers to overcompensate it. Which is easily done since the gap between their and everyone else's output in their "role" is laughbly huge.

There's always the fansubs, thankfully they keep up properly.

While I agree, popularity polls would end up making the server be named Evangelyne or Tristepin... And we have enough of those running rampant in-game as is.

Yeah. Totally. I mean, the work invested for months and months by 1/3th of the server population is nothing compared to a single class being as useless as the rest.

... But the gameplay is almost the same minus the cooldowns, and this game is much more unbalanced. At least in Dofus you can still manage stuff even if underpowered in comparision, in this game 95% of the classes CAN'T do most things without the help of others. I mean, I don't think it's a matter of opinions when it's so... balant. The only reason most classes can keep on leveling in this game is because low level enemies still give experience, if you take that out you'll see everyone staled forever or idling for grouping. :/

Indeed, I meant mostly in the past two-three years. It's funny how the huge amount of multy-accounting bots are generally composed only of Cras, that just goes to show just how much Fanpleasing they went through with them. Playing a Feca always felt more fun for me anyways, and Masqueraiders are entertaining as well, albeit clunky due to lack of tweaking... But balance will never be their forte, I guess. Classes most favored by the casual flock will always become overpowered, making a serious player that just happens to like that class extremely beyond the reach of others.
Loved how playing "newbie classes" in Dofus basically ended up meaning "Play this and win forever."

That's not how it works. (Dofus would also like to tell you otherwise.)
We can hope, we can CLING to hopefulness, but I am afraid everything points for this to be pretty much all they've managed so far.

A good chunk of people, counting myself among, aren't currently playing. We have the game installed, check every now and then when an update comes and test what they've added, then get depressed at how underwhelming and uninspired the changes have been, and come here to bent our frustration for no real purpose other than release and hopeful complaining/discussion. A big share of people, really. Remaining on stand-by until further notice. Again, the chips would be more enjoyable.


This post has been edited by DamianVM - November 25, 2011, 03:31:34.

Ahhh, feels like good ol' Dofus. Now all they have to do is make Cras and Eniripsa balantly overpowered - like, brutally so - and it'll be pretty much the very same.

You can, taking in mind it's their own fault it has been in beta for 4 years. Poor planification and execution has none to blame but them, it's silly to ask money for an unfinished product that ended up being nothing like you promised in the first place... o.o` I speak mostly out of sadness, rather than angst/angry. They planned such an awesome thing, and it ended up being nothing like it. o~o

"Well, let's see. I can purchase fried chicken, or pay for a buggy and unbalanced game that shows no improvement nor progress in the process of 4 years of development, where even should I wish to help them make it an actually worthwhile and bugless game I would be unable, because my community is ignored as no one is being paid to monitor it."
"My, suddenly I feel like eating fried chicken." 

Thirded strategy, and thirded on the preparations aspect.
Mind you, if anything just for the sake of marketing. If you release a Beta knowing the current state of the market and what people will expect (specially after 4! years of development, where many could've made wonders.), it's common sense to not let half of the community build up hate, disgust and complaints towards the game before you even start charging for it. It's both loss of profit and horrible adversting just for lazing it out in planifications and catering to the "lawl mah class is so powerfawl, every1 elze just haterz XD" side of the community - like they did and still do in Dofus - which, in the end, is just a small cluster.

If only...

Nah, none of those apply. Well, slightly less "troll" accounts maybe. But there's a LOT of people with money to waste on silly things, there will always be "troll" accounts, thousands of them, and multyaccounters. Thousands of them as well.
The only thing P2P will bring is mostly dead servers, doubt a lot of people is willing to pay for this. Other than said people with money to waste, that is.


This post has been edited by DamianVM - November 23, 2011, 16:45:15.

I'd try a couple of entries, but indeed the visual area is a major bother to pull, seeing as it has to be strictly original material... To see my characters represented as one of my child-level scribbles, I'd rather keep them in my head. Partly honor, partly shame. Ahahaha... ._.