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posté February 02, 2012, 02:16:21 | #21
I'm disappointed they are giving up on the gemlin idea, I loved that feature and now they are just reverting back to horrible level up pets from dofus. Which will be subscriber only and probably used in part of a set. The subscription part doesnt bother me but killing off the customizable gemlins is an outrage.


posté February 02, 2012, 02:22:16 | #22
I love the gemlin and the way we can custom it. Shame we will loose it, and it was also a good way to see if someone was stasis or wakfu,


Tofurby on Diet * Member Since 2011-02-19
posté February 02, 2012, 04:33:43 | #23
NOO!!!!! WORST IDEA EVER!!!! This is even worse than nerfing the gobgob's lvling up with eating meat because the gemlin was UNIQUE to Wakfu. Do you know how many MMOs have pets, do you know. A CRAP LOAD!!! I loved Wakfu for it's uniqueness and now it's all going down the toilet


Featherless Piwi * Member Since 2011-10-13
posté February 02, 2012, 09:01:09 | #24
i rather have the gemlin than the new pets because its very unique to wakfu


Ugly Gobball * Member Since 2011-01-11
posté February 02, 2012, 09:04:41 | #25
Pets are a major step towards us getting mounts!
I did think they would need to change it for sub gifts, since gemli items wouldn't cut it. Wonder what gifts achievements will give now.
Im hoping that the bow meow doesn't come with one year sub... I really wanted a fox for wisdom...


This post has been edited by BlizzLord - February 02, 2012, 09:07:02.
posté February 02, 2012, 11:36:21 | #26
Seeing how bad are going things since ankama signed the contract with SE, im starting to wonder if all these ilogical decisions come from SE.
I mean, look at SE mmos. Like FF14. Yes that game that got a 4.0 in most reviews, the game which SE had to apologize for, the game that made the stocks of the company go down, and that was made free to play since its very release (it didnt survive even 1 week as p2p).

Holy cow Ankama, i would sink the boat right now and make it again from zero, making contracts with a dead company that havent released a good game since FF8 (that is more than 12 years ago) its a suicide.


Ugly Gobball * Member Since 2011-11-26
posté February 02, 2012, 12:52:50 | #27
i think they're turning wakfu into dofus... new stats (agi int str e cha), pets... next step will be mount and "the bunch of keys"? Marriage and group teleportation to any dung? DEJAVù!!! but there's just 1 thing of dofus that i'd like to see in wakfu...MAGING system!!!


Tofurby on Diet * Member Since 2011-02-03
posté February 02, 2012, 13:50:35 | #28
I guess SE doesnt like wakfu's current succes and forces ankama to turn wakfu into dofus just because they dont think wakfu can be better than dofus and i think SE is behind all these ideas like characteristics and pet system . I will miss wakfu... Ankama had better not co-operate with SE anymore .


Ugly Gobball * Member Since 2012-01-09
posté February 02, 2012, 14:43:18 | #29
I ONLY WANT GEMLIN AND NO OTHER FREEKING PET .
I DONT WANT ANOTHER DOFUS!!!


Featherless Piwi * Member Since 2012-01-05
posté February 02, 2012, 15:19:33 | #30
It's hard to level up your character, its hard to level up craft, its hard to level up patience with bugs. And now. Do we have to level up pets too? OMG! I'm tired of those pet systems, if i was looking for MMORPG with those, i would pick Wizard 101, Ether Saga or anything else.


posté February 02, 2012, 15:54:36 | #31
Is it manadatory?
to have pets if not i guess its just fine!!



posté February 02, 2012, 16:39:09 | #32
And those overthousand gemlin's eyes, skins and bosts (a gorgeous idea) where're supposed to go? I can't see how it's possible to not kill the gemlingems system with introducing pets this brute way. Now i fear too for the wakfu/stasis system.

One wants pets? Just go and subscribe Dofus. Really don't understand the think behind this "clonefication" and don't undertand too how the french guys can like this thing so much.


And how are we suppose to "test" the game while it's clear tht all is going to change after the release?


This post has been edited by Cacopardo - February 02, 2012, 16:41:00.
Lord Madgobb * Member Since 2007-03-08
posté February 02, 2012, 17:05:28 | #33

Quote (otep-vodoo @ 02 February 2012 13:50) *
I guess SE doesnt like wakfu's current succes and forces ankama to turn wakfu into dofus just because they dont think wakfu can be better than dofus and i think SE is behind all these ideas like characteristics and pet system . I will miss wakfu... Ankama had better not co-operate with SE anymore .
SE aren't stupid enough to do that. Making the game more like Dofus will mean it directly competes with Dofus (which Ankama holds all publishing rights to in NA)... SE has FF11 and FF14, as far as I'm aware the "redevelopment" of FF14 is not attempting to make it more like FF11 (except in terms of success maybe), so I very much doubt they would be trying to force such a decision on Ankama.

Ankama's "repeat Dofus" has been their go-to Plan B since well before SE got involved.


Quote (Anidras @ 02 February 2012 11:36) *
Seeing how bad are going things since ankama signed the contract with SE, im starting to wonder if all these ilogical decisions come from SE.
I mean, look at SE mmos. Like FF14. Yes that game that got a 4.0 in most reviews, the game which SE had to apologize for, the game that made the stocks of the company go down, and that was made free to play since its very release (it didnt survive even 1 week as p2p).

Holy cow Ankama, i would sink the boat right now and make it again from zero, making contracts with a dead company that havent released a good game since FF8 (that is more than 12 years ago) its a suicide.
The problems with FF14 (FF11 is relatively successful as an MMO) are to do with their design choices in terms of the FF "brand", SE's deal with Ankama is a publishing deal (so, stuff like hitting "release" dates on time, money, etc... but not game-developing).

I actually like a lot of the FF spin-off games (4 Heroes of Light was probably the most recent one I enjoyed), and apparently the combat system of FF13-2 is pretty good. Of course FF is still terrible in terms of character design and a lot of the plots... but you can hardly say they don't try something new with each release (especially when the world/plot of the games have barely any association with any of the others, even if they all fall under the "Final Fantasy" title).

As a publisher, they seem pretty good too. The stuff from Eidos, which SE now owns, has been good (e.g. Deus Ex: HR)


Now, when are they going to replace the Havenbag with limited housing?


This post has been edited by GoldfishGod - February 02, 2012, 17:28:05.
posté February 02, 2012, 17:16:48 | #34
I don't get point of this?
Why should I start playing new game when I can go to Dofus, where I have already bigger lvl characters and it's easier to lvl.
I can have pet too, I can have the same character classes, I will have MORE spells, I also can get subscription.

Wakfu is going down!
Really...what's the point of NEW GAME when it's just like the OLD ONE???


posté February 02, 2012, 21:03:23 | #35
Are these pets exclusive to this advance subscription? or will they be available afterwards on normal subscription or in game?


Lord Madgobb * Member Since 2008-11-24
posté February 02, 2012, 22:35:12 | #36

Quote (Yoshini @ 02 February 2012 21:03) *
Are these pets exclusive to this advance subscription? or will they be available afterwards on normal subscription or in game?
Read the main topic again...


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The pets can be obtained in different ways: as a reward from the achievements, as a rare drop or even as part of the subscription packages.
 


posté February 03, 2012, 06:33:55 | #37
I, among many people, left dofus for a reason. I wholly agree that making another dofus and calling it wakfu is not going to be recieved well by people that left dofus.

Wakfu however is quite different to dofus and I like the differences a lot, as do many people (as emphasised by the reaction to this topic).

There is no doubt in my mind that broadening the content related to the gemlin would create a much stronger relationship between the player and the game, having raised your character along with your gemlin throughout the game.

Again, there is no doubt in my mind that a large factor to the introduction of other pets to wakfu was simply to entice players into purchasing subscriptions seeing as its relatively timeconsuming and difficult to go about getting pets in other ways, but why lose out on the incredibly popular and UNIUE gemlin idea that has already been implemented into the game. Trust me, the uniqueness means a lot to the gamer.


How about you kill two birds with one stone here by scrapping pets. Hear me out, this can be done by:


-Instead of introducing different pets, introduce upgrades to the gemlin that change the stat bonuses it gives.
-How? Give the gemlin the ability to take on different shapes/forms (that could be obtained the same way one would obtain pets, subscriptions, dungeons etc) that give different TYPES of stat bonuses.
[like transforming the gemlin to take on another form - by doing this the player would create a stronger bond with their original pet (and game), and instead of being frustrated the dont have a bow meow pet or gobball pet, they would eagerly work towards getting a transformation or 'upgrade' to their already beloved pet].



This is my opinion in how to make Wakfu a better game/ a game more people would enjoy more. If you agree, cool, if not, ok, peace

EDIT- assuming youve decided on introducing the pets - as it stands the gemlin will be seen as a useless uninteresting unspecialised pet and people will wonder why you've even bothered putting that in the game.. and god forbid they think the reason for that is solely for you to make money off of them.. that might take the edge off the unique game they think you've created for them.


This post has been edited by Gla3dr - February 03, 2012, 06:38:17.
Reason for edit : see for yourself
Teethless Sharkie * Member Since 2008-08-23
posté February 03, 2012, 07:50:03 | #38

Quote (Gla3dr @ 03 February 2012 06:33) *
How about you kill two birds with one stone here by scrapping pets. Hear me out, this can be done by:

-Instead of introducing different pets, introduce upgrades to the gemlin that change the stat bonuses it gives.
-How? Give the gemlin the ability to take on different shapes/forms (that could be obtained the same way one would obtain pets, subscriptions, dungeons etc) that give different TYPES of stat bonuses.
[like transforming the gemlin to take on another form - by doing this the player would create a stronger bond with their original pet (and game), and instead of being frustrated the dont have a bow meow pet or gobball pet, they would eagerly work towards getting a transformation or 'upgrade' to their already beloved pet].

This is my opinion in how to make Wakfu a better game/ a game more people would enjoy more. If you agree, cool, if not, ok, peace

EDIT- assuming youve decided on introducing the pets - as it stands the gemlin will be seen as a useless uninteresting unspecialised pet and people will wonder why you've even bothered putting that in the game.. and god forbid they think the reason for that is solely for you to make money off of them.. that might take the edge off the unique game they think you've created for them.
I had the same idea the other night. I love my little Gemlin (when he's not telling me how to do stuff I already know lol) and I really think they could have emphasised this idea way more. Like maybe "pills" that your gemlin takes and then it can transform, or potions. They could have been the subscription bonuses instead of these unoriginal pets.

I personally hate this pet system. It just has Dofus written all over it. I was terrible at keeping my pets alive and their bonuses up, they always almost died on me because I'd forget to/couldn't feed them while at work or college. Well it's too late for them to scrap it now, as people have already started purchasing subscriptions and will be expecting the pets they paid for.


Squited Arachnee * Member Since 2011-09-12
posté February 03, 2012, 19:42:39 | #39

Quote (Pyralless @ 03 February 2012 07:50) *

Quote (Gla3dr @ 03 February 2012 06:33) *
How about you kill two birds with one stone here by scrapping pets. Hear me out, this can be done by:

-Instead of introducing different pets, introduce upgrades to the gemlin that change the stat bonuses it gives.
-How? Give the gemlin the ability to take on different shapes/forms (that could be obtained the same way one would obtain pets, subscriptions, dungeons etc) that give different TYPES of stat bonuses.
[like transforming the gemlin to take on another form - by doing this the player would create a stronger bond with their original pet (and game), and instead of being frustrated the dont have a bow meow pet or gobball pet, they would eagerly work towards getting a transformation or 'upgrade' to their already beloved pet].

This is my opinion in how to make Wakfu a better game/ a game more people would enjoy more. If you agree, cool, if not, ok, peace

EDIT- assuming youve decided on introducing the pets - as it stands the gemlin will be seen as a useless uninteresting unspecialised pet and people will wonder why you've even bothered putting that in the game.. and god forbid they think the reason for that is solely for you to make money off of them.. that might take the edge off the unique game they think you've created for them.
I had the same idea the other night. I love my little Gemlin (when he's not telling me how to do stuff I already know lol) and I really think they could have emphasised this idea way more. Like maybe "pills" that your gemlin takes and then it can transform, or potions. They could have been the subscription bonuses instead of these unoriginal pets.

I personally hate this pet system. It just has Dofus written all over it. I was terrible at keeping my pets alive and their bonuses up, they always almost died on me because I'd forget to/couldn't feed them while at work or college. Well it's too late for them to scrap it now, as people have already started purchasing subscriptions and will be expecting the pets they paid for.

+1

I saw so much potential in Gemlin, the simple fact it is a colourless jelly thing made it basic enough to fit any role with the right "add-on", I found the idea of helmets, eyes and gems brilliant as it would have been the most customizable pet in the history of MMOs, with a bit of effort it could have been capable of having the shape of a Tofu, a Bow Meow, or even a Puddling, instead you're just dropping the idea for pets, the same pets Dofus has, the same pets you can find in every other MMO.

What's worse is, with the subscription already available this is probably a change which can't be turned back. You're making so many mistakes this time, Ankama.


Tofurby on Diet * Member Since 2009-11-29
posté February 03, 2012, 21:17:27 | #40
Come on!!! you had 4 dam years of testing again and again to get the game ready and make a great game. In the end it is still crap. You never learnt your lesson from Dofus and this game is gonna be hit hard with alot of hate and dislikes. Yet you want to charge people to play the current content this game has?? that's laughable shame on you. Do you people even listen to your community and what they want??? After all we are your customers..your making the game for US!!!! not for you!!!..we will be the ones shelling out the cash..we will be the ones playing the game!!!......So unless wakfu is only for the dev team to play..then you really need to listen and comprehend and do ur best to please the players...or else your game is gonna fail hard....

* Barely any end game content, muchless midgame..grind grind grind
* The game is pure grind both on lvls, skills lvling, professions with little to show for it
* Barely any storylines or tie in's to anything with this game
* Half of the game needs tweaks and fixes
* Your stat system is a dam joke..everyone uses HP..so all ur other stats are USELESS
* Political system is hilarous but very real...bunch of dogs fighting over a bone with almost little to no rules. Outlaws can enter any coutry and mess things up..if that were real life and criminals tried to enter a country..they would be stoped banned jailed or killed on sight.

I am gonna not point out any more things..because nothing i say will change the game....Everything is already in motion and your stupid game plans are already set..can't change them now. Good luck with your epic fail.